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- Kwacky
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Is the plan now to kill people before they retire?
We've just had notification that one of the partners has had to retire due to ill health. He had a heart attack at work and has been told by the doctors not to return.
He's a grafter.
One of the partners I work for admitted to me the other day she's close to breaking. She has come close to walking out.
The thing is, I talk to a lot of mates in this profession and they're all reporting the same thing - they feel like slaves to the job.
We've just had notification that one of the partners has had to retire due to ill health. He had a heart attack at work and has been told by the doctors not to return.
He's a grafter.
One of the partners I work for admitted to me the other day she's close to breaking. She has come close to walking out.
The thing is, I talk to a lot of mates in this profession and they're all reporting the same thing - they feel like slaves to the job.
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Re: Work
Aren't we all programmed to be "slaves to the system".??
Cookiemonster seems to have realised that, and so presumably have the shirkers who get up at midday, leave their council supplied home to amble down the road to the off licence for their liquid brunch.
The harder you work, the harder you will be worked (at least that's always been my experience to date). Furthermore the more loyal & competent in your role, the less likely you are to proceed.
Don't you think that there comes a time when you have to look at your remaining expectation, and think about what you will want to have achieved towards the end of that period.?
Cookiemonster seems to have realised that, and so presumably have the shirkers who get up at midday, leave their council supplied home to amble down the road to the off licence for their liquid brunch.
The harder you work, the harder you will be worked (at least that's always been my experience to date). Furthermore the more loyal & competent in your role, the less likely you are to proceed.
Don't you think that there comes a time when you have to look at your remaining expectation, and think about what you will want to have achieved towards the end of that period.?
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Re: Work
I think physical work takes a toll which is fairly easy to diagnose...."Your back is fecked----take a few weeks off!"
Office work takes a psychological toll that's much harder to see..."Dave sure seems stressed-out lately, doesn't he??" soon turns to "Dave?? Oh, that's just the way he is."
And no-one else notices or pays it too much mind because they're all going through the same thing.
Or plotting for promotion.
Office work takes a psychological toll that's much harder to see..."Dave sure seems stressed-out lately, doesn't he??" soon turns to "Dave?? Oh, that's just the way he is."
And no-one else notices or pays it too much mind because they're all going through the same thing.
Or plotting for promotion.
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Re: Work
StMarks wrote:Aren't we all programmed to be "slaves to the system".??
Cookiemonster seems to have realised that, and so presumably have the shirkers who get up at midday, leave their council supplied home to amble down the road to the off licence for their liquid brunch.
What are you saying?

There is a lot more to life than work and a lot of time wasted doing so.
There comes a time when work at certain establishments just isnt worth the stress / bigger pay packet.
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Re: Work
Brexit will make it worse too. I can 100% guarantee that.
More and more American working practices are being introduced - zero hours contracts - self employed rather than employed - work til you are older and older - fixed term contracts.
Next will be no sick pay and not expected to take your annual leave.
More and more American working practices are being introduced - zero hours contracts - self employed rather than employed - work til you are older and older - fixed term contracts.
Next will be no sick pay and not expected to take your annual leave.
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Re: Work
One of the most thoughtful things you've written mateD41 wrote:I think physical work takes a toll which is fairly easy to diagnose...."Your back is fecked----take a few weeks off!"
Office work takes a psychological toll that's much harder to see..."Dave sure seems stressed-out lately, doesn't he??" soon turns to "Dave?? Oh, that's just the way he is."
And no-one else notices or pays it too much mind because they're all going through the same thing.
Or plotting for promotion.

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Re: Work
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This is the way it's going. Workers worked harder for less, bosses paid more for ensuring they reduce the wages.
This is the way it's going. Workers worked harder for less, bosses paid more for ensuring they reduce the wages.
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Re: Work
Kwacky being in your profession are you stuck doing this job until retirement age or can you get through it until the kids finish uni and get their own jobs then Could you take a more relaxing role? Mortgage paid off, Bill's at a minimum, less needed income more time for yourself, less stress etc.
Never feel like a slave to a job. We work to live never live to work.
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Never feel like a slave to a job. We work to live never live to work.
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Re: Work
Read his post again, he said if he had not moved.D41 wrote:So just over a year or so from now??
That's a big commitment.
Happiness is not a destination. It is a way of life.
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Re: Work
Put every spare £ into paying off the mortgage early, that's one of the things we did. Makes a massive difference.
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Re: Work
You read them again, numbnuts. Mine makes perfect sense.kiwikrasher wrote:Read his post again, he said if he had not moved.D41 wrote:So just over a year or so from now??
That's a big commitment.

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Re: Work
I don't anticipate ever being able to not have to work. The only way I could make it pay is to do high risk / high pay work for 20 years, pay of the house and build up a huge savings.
If I don't do the above then I expect to still be working past 70.
If I don't do the above then I expect to still be working past 70.
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Fair enough cockwomble, I just assumed you were making a sarcastic comment. I’d be right the other 99/100 timesD41 wrote:You read them again, numbnuts. Mine makes perfect sense.kiwikrasher wrote:Read his post again, he said if he had not moved.D41 wrote:So just over a year or so from now??
That's a big commitment.

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- Kwacky
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Re: Work
I'll be working from home at least 1 day a week by the end of the year, if not sooner. We'll be paperless by then. I've chosen Wednesdays so the week is broken up.
It'll cut down on travel costs, reduce my mileage and the wear on the bikes so overall I'll be better off I reckon.
It'll cut down on travel costs, reduce my mileage and the wear on the bikes so overall I'll be better off I reckon.