In, out or shake it all about?

[Blade]

How's that balanced

I'm undecided and not that well informed tbh so a balanced argument article would be very helpful to me at the moment, but that IMO is in no way balanced, even slightly, it's completely biased.

[duke63]

Read what the Bank of England say Blade, that's all anyone needs to know IMHO.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36546302" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



But other points: No one outside the EU has free access to the single market without agreeing to free movement of EU citizens in their country. Britain will be no different and the Germans have already said as much.

That means to reduce immigration EU exports and imports would be subject to customs checks and tariffs.

If we insist on immigration controls UK citizens will be subject to the same controls within Europe as we impose on EU citizens. That will almost certainly mean needing a visa to go into Europe even for a holiday.

So yes we could control immigration but it will be at a cost to trade and the easy movement of UK citizens around Europe.

Once we leave we have no say on anything in Europe and will be on our own.

[C00kiemonster]

Read what the Bank of England say Blade, that's all anyone needs to know IMHO.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36546302" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



But other points: No one outside the EU has free access to the single market without agreeing to free movement of EU citizens in their country. Britain will be no different and the Germans have already said as much.

That means to reduce immigration EU exports and imports would be subject to customs checks and tariffs.

If we insist on immigration controls UK citizens will be subject to the same controls within Europe as we impose on EU citizens. That will almost certainly mean needing a visa to go into Europe even for a holiday.

So yes we could control immigration but it will be at a cost to trade and the easy movement of UK citizens around Europe.

Once we leave we have no say on anything in Europe and will be on our own.

Totally agree.

I'm slightly biased as god knows what will happen to Brits living abroad - like i do.

[Monty]

How's that balanced

I'm undecided and not that well informed tbh so a balanced argument article would be very helpful to me at the moment, but that IMO is in no way balanced, even slightly, it's completely biased.

And to make matters worse your sarcasm detector appears to have malfunctioned again.

[duke63]

It is worth noting that Norway and Switzerland also contribute towards the EU financially just as the EU members do.

If the UK does intending going it alone, it will have to be on different terms to those Norway and Switzerland agreed with the EU in which case i cannot see the point of leaving.

[Perkles]

Labour mp Jo cox shot and stabbed by a Britain 1st nutter today
I hope she makes it

[C00kiemonster]

Labour mp Jo cox shot and stabbed by a Britain 1st nutter today
I hope she makes it

She's died

[Perkles]

O fook that's bad news

[Rossgo]

What a pointless act. Poor family

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[Kwacky]

Very tragic news. One of those rare politicians who was in it to help others. Such a sad loss of life.

[Monty]

Utterly tragic loss to the country

[Kwacky]

The Conservative Party have said as a show of respect they will not contest her seat when a new MP is being put forward. Nice touch.

[Monty]

The Conservative Party have said as a show of respect they will not contest her seat when a new MP is being put forward. Nice touch.

Not really, she had a 6000 majority, up from 3000 in the previous election. I might sound cynical but it's very easy to give away something you don't actually have.

Blade, check this one out it's very balanced.

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAgKHSNqxa8[/video]

[Kwacky]

The latest rumour doing the rounds is that the EU plans to ban national flags, so the only way you can keep the Union Jack* is if we leave.

*I'm not getting into the Jack/Flag debate

[Rossgo]

I really hope that's all crap!! Banning flags, I swear it's all propaganda even if I want out!!!

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[Kwacky]

It's complete and utter bullshit. How can you ban flags?

[Cav]

There's already a social stigma attached to anyone that states they are english and proud or display the english flag... don't get me started on polictical correctness

[Kwacky]

You can tell how poor an area is by the number of St George's flags being displayed................

[Blade]

The opposite is true in the US and people are proud to fly their flag and the US has to be one of the biggest nations of immigrants ever ironically.

[duke63]

Much of that is to do with the fact most Nations use their flag With respect and dignity. Over the years the Union Jack and St George flag has been associated with right wing politics and football hooligans.