Start at the Raven at 8.45, then to Craven Arms , Station Café for 9.45 breakfast. Then probably Newtown ,A483 ,Crossgates,Aberystwyth and then the loop back home. Usually get back to Merseyside no later than 17.30, as long as we arn't riding with Blade .......he likes his cake and tea a little too much

that's the gist...............................cheers