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Re: Putin and the West

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Perkles wrote:ive registered to take in two refugees ,Putins a cockwomble we should send in Will Smith to slap his face

Good for you.
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It looks like there's a renewed offensive against Kyiv, with attacks from the East and Northwest.

Most people seem to think that Russia is looking to split Ukraine into East/West, which is easy to do if you use the Dnieper river as a border.

Russia is forcing people from occupied areas into other occupied regions of Ukraine and into Russia.

Ukraine has said it is willing to continue to discuss matters with Russia. If Russia is looking to split Ukraine in two then I reckon that's what they'll do then demand they can keep what they've taken. At the very least Russia will want confirmation that Crimea belongs to them and they'll expect a land line to it along the south coast as well as the Donbas region.

Ukraine is doing well but it's losing the war. It can only carry on for so long. Russia has more money and resources. People talked about Ukrainians taking up arms in occupied areas but there's very little evidence of this.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60904676" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Someone needs to remove Putin's regime and soon.
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Not sure if it's related or coincidence but the kerbing at Darley Moor is now Blue and Yellow
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It's all part of the NWO conspiracy mate ;)

Yes - there are people questioning why there's so many blue/yellow colour schemes kicking about in flags, sports team colours, brand logos etc.
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You mean to say that a popular colour combination, one which looks good, is commonly used? How bizarre!
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Russia appears to be withdrawing some of its troops from around Kyiv.

It's not clear yet if they're being moved into areas they've already taken to strengthen their positions or if they're going to be used to encircle the Ukrainian troops in the east.
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Cav wrote:You mean to say that a popular colour combination, one which looks good, is commonly used? How bizarre!
Mad, isn't it?

There's always a conspiracy if you look hard enough.
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Kwacky wrote:Russia appears to be withdrawing some of its troops from around Kyiv.

It's not clear yet if they're being moved into areas they've already taken to strengthen their positions or if they're going to be used to encircle the Ukrainian troops in the east.
Or extraction prior to mass bombs?
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No, these are the troops around Kyiv, not in it. There's plenty of distance between the Russians and the city.

I have nothing to back it up with but I think Putin is consolidating.
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The obvious choice for him is to try and capture and maintain everywhere east of the river. It's a consolation prize but something is better than nothing.

The Ukrainians will soon run out of defensive supplies so if Russia are happy to keep sacrificing troops and aircraft, eventually they will win the war.
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There's a lot of resources in the East. If Putin uses his Kyiv troops he can encircle the Ukraine JFO troops and take out half of their army, then claim Eastern Ukraine for Russia.
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Cav wrote:You mean to say that a popular colour combination, one which looks good, is commonly used? How bizarre!
Yep.... Goodyear, IKEA, GT Bicycles, and most notably Sweden, have all thrown in their lot with the Ukrainians. Good for them.
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Putin is getting petty.

There's lots of photos of killed livestock, burnt out fields and shelled food warehouses. It's a repeat of what Russia did to Ukraine under Stalin.
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And they're supposed to be scaling down attacks! If they do a deal the b@stard will be back for more. Agreements mean nothing to him.
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Lots of footage coming out from areas around Kyiv retaken by Ukraine troops.

There's evidence of abuse to civilians including imprisonment, torture and murder. There's photos of tied up bodies.

Lots of photos of dead Russians but they look a long time dead. That suggests that the Russians were leaving their comrades where they fell.
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Russians are selling stolen Ukraine property in Belarus markets.

Classy.
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Looks like a lot of deserters

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There's too many of these stories on Twitter for it to be Ukraine propaganda
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Over 250 UA marines in mariupol have surrendered to the Russians. The city can't be far from falling. The Russians have a city leader lined up to control the city.

Two thirds of the Russian troops and equipment from around Kyiv is in Belarus being refitted, rested and repaired.

More atrocities are coming to light, including a family tied up and shot in the back of the heat. A 3 year old girl has signs of sexual abuse.

Anything storing food is still being targeted.

The expectations now are for a long war in the East of the country. Russia is able to get supplies to its troops on that side of the country so the plan is probably to wear Ukraine down into surrendering parts of the country to Russia or agree to breakaway republics.
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