Putin and the West

[D41]

They've even mounted am anti aircraft gun on the train

...... looks like a Z-23 Auto-cannon....a fairly serious piece of hardware in it's time - enough to ruin anyone's day. Old though.... been around since at least the 1960s.

[Jack]

That's a good deal for everyone. Ukraine gets jets, Poland upgrades its air force and will have NATO compatible aircraft and the USA gets to sell some old stock.

US have said the deal is un workable and have refused to participate .

[Cav]

I presume because of the backlash?

[Tuffers]

So what if Putin thinks it's wrong to give away jets etc. Is he caring about ethics?? Feck him.

[Kwacky]

US intelligence reckons Russia has lost about 10% of its invasion hardware so far. Troop losses are 3,000 to 5,000. Ukraine say it's about 11,000 killed, injured, missing or captured.

[Cav]

So what if Putin thinks it's wrong to give away jets etc. Is he caring about ethics?? Feck him.

My personal opinion is the same, however, they have to think about the possible consequences.

The main point is that Russia has banned UK airplanes from airspace and if they've done the same on Polish vehicles then it would be making the first official move into a multi-nation war.

[Monty]

[Kwacky]

Russia has bombed a Childrens and Maternity Hospital.

They've got form for this in Syria.

[C00kiemonster]

Russia has bombed a Childrens and Maternity Hospital.

They've got form for this in Syria.

I'm really struggling to watch the news currently

Outrageous. Just evil.

[D6Nutz]

I don't watch the news.

It almost sounds like a toddler pushing the boundaries to see how far he can go before provoking a response.

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[Tuffers]

Captured Russian soldiers. They've been planning this since last summer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD_4Y2TQotA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[duke63]

I don't watch any news channels and try and avoid any news at all if i can.

The world is full of **** idiots and too many of them have positions of power and trust and then abuse it all.

All those votes for twats like Trump, Farage and Johnson are part of the same problem.

Vote for Nationalist politics and its ALWAYS ends in war.

I have no doubt we will eventually destroy ourselves...maybe we are approaching that point faster than we think.

[D6Nutz]

Captured Russian soldiers. They've been planning this since last summer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD_4Y2TQotA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That's quite a watch.

Assuming it's true, not scripted, and not 3 people trying to save their own arses in a shit situation. It shows the amazing humility of the Ukrainians towards hostile invaders, I hope they manage to keep this moral high ground as it will win the support of the world public.

It also shows the true power of media control and how easy it is to spread disinformation to your advantage.

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[Kwacky]

They reckon there's been Russian spys and sabs in Ukraine cities for over a year.

There's an audio clip online. B it's allegedly an intercepted call where a soldier brags about killing prisoners (it's not clear if it's civilians or POWs)

https://twitter.com/Ukraine/status/1501 ... EidvZ_Xdqg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[duke63]

Chelski sanctioned and all assets frozen.

Frankly I hope they get relegated as a result.

[Kwacky]

Pro-Russian DNR Separatists have been sent from the Donbass to Melitopol to maintain order. Basically they're going to start dealing with Pro-Ukraine protests.

Chechen troops have been filmed patrolling the outskirts of Kyiv, stopping people, asking for papers and breaking into houses for "security reasons"

This is where it gets really nasty. Putin is using foreign troops for the nasty shit and start terrorising the local populations.

[Cav]

City fighting is only ever messy. Does this feel like we are the Capitol audience of Hunger Games to anyone else?

Nato and Putin are opposition game makers while Ukraine are the District members fighting for survival, thrown into the game by the game makers. Meanwhile, Russian and pro-Russian forces are the poison fog and human-eating monkeys thrown in to spice it up.

It's sickening. It almost feels like this is supposed to be entertainment by some sickos!

[Cav]

Japan are reigniting their feud with Russia over the Kuril Islands. Its a good distraction for Ukraine.

I did see an interview with an American Colonal/Commander (not sure which) and he mentioned a "rather lovely city" in Russia bordering two NATO countries. He said, "it would be a shame if anything happened to it" and went on to say how ground and air forces are already being mobilised.

[Kwacky]

Georgia has got its eyes on reclaiming some land from Russia

[Cav]

Hopefully everyone overwhelms Russia... also hopefully they don't throw their nukes out of the pram.