Asylum seekers - the reality and the truth
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Asylum seekers - the reality and the truth
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So far removed from what Boris wants you to believe.
So far removed from what Boris wants you to believe.
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Re: Asylum seekers - the reality and the truth
According to the article....if I'm reading it correctly, then what they're doing seems illegal enough.
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Re: Asylum seekers - the reality and the truth
According to the article, with the current travel restrictions in place due to the pandemic, it seems that it is illegal...is this not the case - is the article inaccurate??
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Re: Asylum seekers - the reality and the truth
Well no, but they're not just "traveling" as such, they're emigrating...or at least attempting to.
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Re: Asylum seekers - the reality and the truth
If they come without permission or identification or a visa are they not entering illegally ?
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Re: Asylum seekers - the reality and the truth
If they're not seeking asylum then yes.Jack wrote:If they come without permission or identification or a visa are they not entering illegally ?
The vast majority of people here illegally are people who entered legally but have failed to leave. Very few people come here by boat or smuggled in. The problem is the governments failure to track people and eject them.
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Can you not seek asylum at any UK Embassy or Consulate ?
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Re: Asylum seekers - the reality and the truth
Not that I'm aware of. I would have to check but I'm pretty certain you have do it in the country you're seeking asylum.
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Re: Asylum seekers - the reality and the truth
Fair enough.... that makes sense.Kwacky wrote:If they're not seeking asylum then yes.Jack wrote:If they come without permission or identification or a visa are they not entering illegally ?
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Re: Asylum seekers - the reality and the truth
I "think" that you arrive as a refugee, and then apply for asylum.Kwacky wrote:Not that I'm aware of. I would have to check but I'm pretty certain you have do it in the country you're seeking asylum.
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They are only refugees until they arrive in a safe country , if they travel further then they become migrants .
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Re: Asylum seekers - the reality and the truth
They don't have to apply for refugee status in the first country they come to.
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Re: Asylum seekers - the reality and the truth
Must admit that was my understanding too.Jack wrote:They are only refugees until they arrive in a safe country , if they travel further then they become migrants .
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Re: Asylum seekers - the reality and the truth
I thought they hold refugee status until they find a country that will accept them permanently.
Bloody foreigners.
Bloody foreigners.
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If I want to go and live in another country I don't have to be in that country to initiate the process , I go to the relevant Embassy/Consulate and make my application and when and if my application is accepted I make the appropriate travel plans and arrive legally , if I tried in some way to circumvent that process and entered another state illegally I would expect to be arrested , detained and deported . Why is it different for people coming from France in a dinghy ?
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Re: Asylum seekers - the reality and the truth
Because they're not French citizens & France doesn't have to accept them back. France is probably just fine with sending them on their way & leaving it up to the next country to deal with them.
Just as anyone else is, I suppose.
Just as anyone else is, I suppose.
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I am rather doubtful that if I entered the USA illegally from Mexico or Canada and was apprehended that they would send me back to Mexico or Canada I suspect they would send me back to the UK , if they were not able to determine my country of origin I imagine that I would be detained for quite some time if not indefinitely.
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Re: Asylum seekers - the reality and the truth
It's bullshit that was peddled by people acting for Vote Leave as part of the "taking back control" strap line.Blade wrote:Must admit that was my understanding too.Jack wrote:They are only refugees until they arrive in a safe country , if they travel further then they become migrants .
It's bollocks. But people can't be bothered to fact check.