Climate change

[D41]

I think of connectivity in that context & I think it means "all things, at all times"...or something along those lines.

[duke63]

The reason many people refuse to use public transport is because, in the UK sf least, much of it is old and dirty and inefficient. Change that and everyone will use it.

I am getting a lot of clients asking about company electric cars now they know it will cost them nothing in tax. The cluent who bought the Tesla last year will save himself £1000 per MONTH in tax alone from April.

It’s very easy to make the petrol and Diesel engine defunct and too costly through the tax system.

[Cav]

It's just shifting the problem toward lithium mining and old battery waste.

It doesn't do anything other than change the problem we have.

The real solution is going to be in something like Hydrogen or water-tank hydrogen converting fuel cells and electric motors.

[duke63]

Much of getting rid of petrol and Diesel engines is now for cleaner air as much as reduced CO2. We are making the air in urban areas poisonous.

[Cav]

Diesel doesn't damage the environment as much as petrol IIRC... diesel is worse for our health and petrol is worse for the environment

[duke63]

http://www.air-quality.org.uk/26.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Cav]

Thanks, that confirms what I was saying

FYI, petrol cars now have PPFs as well

[duke63]

When the wife and I can go down to one car in a few years time, electric car will be first port of call for us.

[D41]

Bottom line is they're both bad to a varying degree. You're burning, firing, or combusting a fossil-fuel, then there's going to be a residual side-effect of some sort or another.

[C00kiemonster]

http://www.air-quality.org.uk/26.php

Interesting. The only bit i'm not sure is true is that Diesel Cars warm up faster than Petrols. I've never seen that in my experience. Most of the crap that comes out the back of them seemingly does so when they are cold.

[Cav]

I must have missed that bit.

The simple fact that petrol cars blow hot air out of the fan sooner shows they warm up faster because (unless I'm mistaken) the heat partly comes from the engine coolant?

[C00kiemonster]

I must have missed that bit.

The simple fact that petrol cars blow hot air out of the fan sooner shows they warm up faster because (unless I'm mistaken) the heat partly comes from the engine coolant?

Correct.

Diesel cars have bigger engine blocks usually made of denser metal too so they take longer to warm.

[Perkles]

I must have missed that bit.

The simple fact that petrol cars blow hot air out of the fan sooner shows they warm up faster because (unless I'm mistaken) the heat partly comes from the engine coolant?

its come from the spark and detonation

[Cav]

I must have missed that bit.

The simple fact that petrol cars blow hot air out of the fan sooner shows they warm up faster because (unless I'm mistaken) the heat partly comes from the engine coolant?

its come from the spark and detonation

which comes from the battery so really... we're already driving electric cars!

[Perkles]

I must have missed that bit.

The simple fact that petrol cars blow hot air out of the fan sooner shows they warm up faster because (unless I'm mistaken) the heat partly comes from the engine coolant?

its come from the spark and detonation

which comes from the battery so really... we're already driving electric cars!

im an eco warrior and drive a hybrid so both and lets face it most people only care about reducing company car tax and running costs

[Cav]

But your eco car is maybe 200kg heavier therefore requiring more frequent resurfacing of all the roads, higher consumption of tyres and a significantly larger quantity of fuel by weight than a 20 year old dirty diesel.

FYI, everything I said above is true but I couldn't give a sh!t. Cars won't be the same thing before long so we will just have to wait and see what happens

[D41]

That's a bit of a stretch. Passenger vehicles in general, regardless of powerplant, have grown progressively bigger & heavier over the decades, and none have anything like the impact - no pun intended, of commercial vehicles such as buses, HGVs, etc.

[Jack]

Aluminium nano particles can liberate 1300+ litres of Hydrogen from a litre of water in an exothermic reaction so you could burn the hydrogen in an ICE or use it to generate electricity via a fuel cell , once the particles have oxidised they can be recycled and used again .

[Cav]

That's a bit of a stretch. Passenger vehicles in general, regardless of powerplant, have grown progressively bigger & heavier over the decades, and none have anything like the impact - no pun intended, of commercial vehicles such as buses, HGVs, etc.

It's not a stretch though is it. Overnight, a Golf GTE has gained 200kg over the otherwise identical Golf GTI

[duke63]

Like it or not, this is the future and this is where the R&D is going with the automotive industry.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-51171398" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;