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Re: Should the Nurburgring split cars and bikes?

Posted: 07 May 2014, 18:04
by Blade
Probably a good idea IMO. I wouldn't want cars on a uk track day with me so same theory would apply at the Nurburgring.

Re: Should the Nurburgring split cars and bikes?

Posted: 07 May 2014, 19:21
by Kwacky
It's a hard one. The ring is massive and it is a public road (I think). It's always had cars and bikes running together without too many issues. I can understand both arguments but it's one of the few places where you can put a bike against a car and race them for real.

Re: Should the Nurburgring split cars and bikes?

Posted: 07 May 2014, 20:02
by Godzilla
Is it a public road if you have to pay to go on and the can refuse admission? I obviously don't know all the legalities.

Re: Should the Nurburgring split cars and bikes?

Posted: 07 May 2014, 20:03
by duke63
Not really bothered TBH as i know i wont ever be riding it. :D

Re: Should the Nurburgring split cars and bikes?

Posted: 07 May 2014, 20:10
by Kwacky
Godzilla wrote:Is it a public road if you have to pay to go on and the can refuse admission? I obviously don't know all the legalities.
German highway law is outside my field of expertise.

Re: Should the Nurburgring split cars and bikes?

Posted: 07 May 2014, 20:32
by D6Nutz
duke63 wrote:Not really bothered TBH as i know i wont ever be riding it. :D
^^^ this.

I've had the chance to go more than once, but it's one place I don't want to ride. The tarmac is in worse condition than most UK roads and it's full of twats who want a 9 min lap at any cost... I don't want to be part of that cost..

I would much prefer the IOM any day.

Re: Should the Nurburgring split cars and bikes?

Posted: 07 May 2014, 20:43
by duke63
Its a public road but UK insurance cover wont be valid whilst you are riding it and if you hit a barrier or spill oil, its all repaired at your cost.

I have no desire to ride it and as D6Nutz points out, many are chasing times on there.

Re: Should the Nurburgring split cars and bikes?

Posted: 07 May 2014, 20:46
by Jack
I dont understand how a "public road " can have new owners

Re: Should the Nurburgring split cars and bikes?

Posted: 07 May 2014, 20:48
by Godzilla
I agree, I don't see how it is a public road.

Re: Should the Nurburgring split cars and bikes?

Posted: 07 May 2014, 20:54
by duke63
Jack wrote:I dont understand how a "public road " can have new owners
I guess it's a toll road the same as the M6 Toll.

Re: Should the Nurburgring split cars and bikes?

Posted: 07 May 2014, 21:07
by Monty
I don't care if it's a public road or a track it's the lack of run off and the Armco barriers that put me off.

Re: Should the Nurburgring split cars and bikes?

Posted: 08 May 2014, 07:27
by bb41
We went to ride the circuit when over there touring a few years back, but 2up didn't seem the most sensible idea.

Didn't the previous owners go bust ?

My ethos is if it aint broke don't fix it

Re: Should the Nurburgring split cars and bikes?

Posted: 08 May 2014, 09:07
by Cavetroll87
I probably would give it a go but thats coz Im young and stupid, and tbh I would be more likely to if they ran Cars and Bikes separate, dont like the idea of being cut up by a load of 911s while I wobble my way round

Re: Should the Nurburgring split cars and bikes?

Posted: 08 May 2014, 12:46
by Blade
duke63 wrote:
Jack wrote:I dont understand how a "public road " can have new owners
I guess it's a toll road the same as the M6 Toll.
That's always been my understanding also.

Personally I would like to ride or drive it at some point as it's a hugely challenging and famous ribbon of tarmac. D6nutz comments on the quality of the asphalt is worrying and off putting tbh but all other issues don't concern me too much. Yes there is little run of but the same is true in Wales riding between dry stone walls sometimes with sheep on the wrong side of the wall. Yes there are nobs chasing a lap time but this goes on on UK tracks and tbh there is stupid and dangerous drivers all over uk roads but that doesn't stop me venturing out on them. One good thing is I believe you are supposed to over take on the left which is a good idea as keeps surprises rare and avoids the shock of some spoon diving up the inside of you at the apex on a track day. Not risk free I agree but motorcycling never is.

Re: Should the Nurburgring split cars and bikes?

Posted: 08 May 2014, 12:49
by Kwacky
Nicely put, Mr Blade.

The RIng holds no interest for me but I can see why it does for so many.

Re: Should the Nurburgring split cars and bikes?

Posted: 08 May 2014, 17:04
by Blade
Cheers Mr Kwacky (y)

Re: Should the Nurburgring split cars and bikes?

Posted: 09 May 2014, 07:10
by C00kiemonster
I'd take the car but not the bike. Too dangerous with too many people and faster bikers on it.

Re: Should the Nurburgring split cars and bikes?

Posted: 09 May 2014, 07:44
by duke63
I suspect its the cars you need to watch out for at the Ring.

Be under no illusion at just how quick modern cars can be.

Re: Should the Nurburgring split cars and bikes?

Posted: 09 May 2014, 10:50
by C00kiemonster
duke63 wrote:I suspect its the cars you need to watch out for at the Ring.

Be under no illusion at just how quick modern cars can be.
Oh I know. I managed to steal a couple of hours out in the jag yesterday without wifey (devil) Bank holiday in France and no-one on the roads o/. What a machine!

Re: Should the Nurburgring split cars and bikes?

Posted: 09 May 2014, 14:45
by Ian03
Why pay to go on the ring when you have the lovely B500 road, which goes through the Black Forrest for free.