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Headlight Covers

Posted: 20 Apr 2014, 21:15
by Blade
Fitted these today

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Re: Headlight Covers

Posted: 20 Apr 2014, 21:42
by Godzilla
No worries about the safety aspect of no lights and mirrors?

Re: Headlight Covers

Posted: 20 Apr 2014, 21:52
by Blade
None at all. I only ride in the daylight but if I get caught out and it's dark I can simply remove the cover. Regards no mirrors I just look over my shoulder its quite easy tbh and I don't find it as disadvantage.

As far as I'm aware its legal unless you can tell me different which if it is please do as obviously I would need to know.

Re: Headlight Covers

Posted: 20 Apr 2014, 22:06
by Godzilla
I believe it is legal to ride without mirrors.

Lights are a different matter. If they were fitted at the time of MOT then they have to be there. Covering them up could be a grey area but I bet some cops could be picky.

Re: Headlight Covers

Posted: 20 Apr 2014, 22:13
by Blade
Thanks for the advice its something I hadn't even considered tbh. I will have to look into things a little more.

Re: Headlight Covers

Posted: 20 Apr 2014, 22:16
by Spudda
But dont some of the track bikes with a V5 have a daytime MOT and road legal ??

Re: Headlight Covers

Posted: 20 Apr 2014, 22:30
by duke63
That's not the same, Spudda. As i understand it, if you have lights fitted they must work.

Does the SP2 have lights permamently on, Blade?

My 748 doesn't as it was built before that became a legal requirement and your SP2 may be the same but i'm sure if they are permanently on both Plod and your insurance company may take a dim view of them being covered.

Re: Headlight Covers

Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 08:06
by Godzilla
Yes, and for what it is worth, there is no such thing as a day time MOT.

I've looked into this, you cant have some of the lights and not others. If a brake light is fitted you have to have all lights. If there are switches fitted (ie not either removed or permanently covered up) then they lights have to be working. Although I know some MOT places aren't so strict (or maybe don't realise) . Its a real grey area.

The only thing you need to pass the MOT is a horn, number plate and (I think) a reflector.

(Although I believe some do pass without reflectors).

Re: Headlight Covers

Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 09:35
by D6Nutz
FWIW..
This inspection applies to: all machines, except those which have neither front nor rear position lamps, or have such lamps permanently disconnected, painted over or masked that are
. only used during daylight hours, and
. not used at times of seriously reduced visibility

If this situation occurs the vehicle presenter should be issued with a VT32 (advisory notice) recording the above.
A motor bicycle first used before 1 January 1931 does not need a headlamp.

A motor bicycle is only required to have a dipped-beam headlamp (but may also have a main beam) if it:
. was first used on or after 1st May 1995 and cannot exceed 30 mph / 50 kph with an engine capacity not exceeding 50cc. or
. was first used before 1 January 1972 and with an engine capacity of less than 50cc.
. any machine having a maximum speed not exceeding 50km/h/30mph
Taken from here >> http://www.motuk.co.uk/mcmanual_120.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; <<

Re: Headlight Covers

Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 10:07
by Bratty
I had one when I first got the CB1R but never put it on, now I can't find it.

Re: Headlight Covers

Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 13:59
by Blade
Some great advice guys thanks.

No worries for MOT as 2 seconds to remove.

Point taken regard insurance and plod. Seems a grey area and in need of some more research.

Duke my bike is an 04 model and lights are hard wired on. The 03 model had a switch to select on or off.

Re: Headlight Covers

Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 14:05
by duke63
Regardless of all the advice the bike looks great, Blade.

Re: Headlight Covers

Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 14:19
by D6Nutz
duke63 wrote:Regardless of all the advice the bike looks great, Blade.
(f1)

Re: Headlight Covers

Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 14:33
by C00kiemonster
Blade wrote:Some great advice guys thanks.

No worries for MOT as 2 seconds to remove.

Point taken regard insurance and plod. Seems a grey area and in need of some more research.

Duke my bike is an 04 model and lights are hard wired on. The 03 model had a switch to select on or off.
Can you buy an 03 model switch Blade? I bought a TT600 switch for my Daytona 650 and retro fitted it so I could turn the lights off on that.

Re: Headlight Covers

Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 14:35
by C00kiemonster
Oh and the bike looks rubbish as usual. Sell it to me for 20p to ease your pain :D

Re: Headlight Covers

Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 19:28
by Blade
C00kiemonster wrote:Oh and the bike looks rubbish as usual. Sell it to me for 20p to ease your pain :D
20 p and that bag of nails car you have just bought and I promise to give it serious thought (lol)

Re: Headlight Covers

Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 19:30
by C00kiemonster
:D

No deal ;)

Re: Headlight Covers

Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 20:43
by Blade
C00kiemonster wrote::D

No deal ;)
Wow slow down big guy I only committed to thinking about it and tbh I'm going to have to say no (giggle)

Re: Headlight Covers

Posted: 23 Apr 2014, 12:36
by D6Nutz
Asked the MOT tester today about headlight covers, he said quite simply. If they are fitted to the bike at the time of the MOT then I'd have to fail it.

For my own piece of mind I also asked about retro-fitting a headlight switch. This is apparently not an issue, as long as both the switch and headlight(s) are fully operational.

Re: Headlight Covers

Posted: 23 Apr 2014, 16:04
by Blade
So its legal to fit a switch and turn the lights off but not cover them up. That makes little sense to me but understand the wording and why its implemented just think its ironic.