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Re: Brexit thread
Posted: 24 Dec 2020, 11:17
by Kwacky
Money never runs out when you're happy to borrow and make the poor repay it.
Re: Brexit thread
Posted: 24 Dec 2020, 11:22
by duke63
Kwacky wrote:Money never runs out when you're happy to borrow and make the poor repay it.
Borrow from the rich, pay them interest on the borrowing and take that from the poor is this Government's mantra.
Re: Brexit thread
Posted: 24 Dec 2020, 11:23
by Monty
It's positive news, however I suspect it won't be as good as the deal we currently have and simultaneously won't be good enough for the Brexity bods.
The worst of both worlds for everyone might not be such a bad thing.
Re: Brexit thread
Posted: 24 Dec 2020, 12:07
by C00kiemonster
I'll believe it when both parliaments agree it. They are still arguing about fish apparently.
If it means no customs on goods and services it will be a relief, but will always leave a sour taste for me - it's affected my life significantly over the last 4 years, both financially, administratively and changing levels of uncertainty.
Whatever happens I believe GDP, employment and quality of living in the UK will be lower, for many years at least.
But ultimately its a positive as the country can move forward, hopefully with some optimism - next thing to do is get rid of the greedy bastards who started all this.
Re: Brexit thread
Posted: 24 Dec 2020, 12:22
by Kwacky
Now they're free of the EU I fully expect this government to do what they can to erode workers rights and hand them back to the bosses. Civil liberties will get a bashing as well.
Re: Brexit thread
Posted: 24 Dec 2020, 13:27
by duke63
I think I wait till we see what the agreement involves before making judgement but any agreement is better than nothing. Rumours are quite a few industries will be left out of the agreement because the UK refuses to align to EU rules.
Re: Brexit thread
Posted: 24 Dec 2020, 14:44
by Bob T
I doubt that anyone with their feet on the ground will get to read or understand the 2000 page document.
I now hope that it all goes wrong and the UK ends up with no deal as it will have little effect on me. I love to point out to people that it is what your country voted for, and take no blame myself as I was not allowed to vote.
At the end of the day I have finished with Britain and can see no reason to ever visit again in this lifetime, but I still have to get back home to France in less than a week.
Re: Brexit thread
Posted: 24 Dec 2020, 14:51
by duke63
Not all of us voted for it, Bob.
In fact the majority either didn't vote at all or voted against it.
Re: Brexit thread
Posted: 24 Dec 2020, 16:38
by Monty
Yeah thanks Bob, Merry Christmas!
Re: Brexit thread
Posted: 24 Dec 2020, 20:46
by D41
Re: Brexit thread
Posted: 24 Dec 2020, 21:01
by C00kiemonster
Bob T wrote:I doubt that anyone with their feet on the ground will get to read or understand the 2000 page document.
I now hope that it all goes wrong and the UK ends up with no deal as it will have little effect on me. I love to point out to people that it is what your country voted for, and take no blame myself as I was not allowed to vote.
At the end of the day I have finished with Britain and can see no reason to ever visit again in this lifetime, but I still have to get back home to France in less than a week.
A lot of people didnt vote for it and its affected a lot of ex-pats in France one way or another.
There are a lot of good people in the UK and i for one enjoy the UK when i'm there. Everywhere has it's good and bad.
Ultimately the people who have decided to restrict travel and require a test to travel are France, not the UK. International travel has been a well discussed risk for the last 9 months, this month being a good example, so extra restrictions due to the circumstances should not be a suprise.
Re: Brexit thread
Posted: 24 Dec 2020, 21:25
by duke63
Reality is travel restrictions and testing should have been in place for every Country in the world since January once covid became a thing.
vaccination passports will be part of life for the next few years IMHO.
Re: Brexit t
Posted: 27 Dec 2020, 21:13
by ket
I voted remain purely because the construction industry was doing well where our business is and I saw no real need for change. So it was very marginal and my mrs and I were not sure which way to vote. Construction is normally hit first but I kept pretty calm about it really. Had to cut back like everybody else.
I was a little shocked the day of the result but before long was behind the decision of the country. It’s clear we had the wrong PM for the job at the time because every deal she put forward was rejected. But I believe in how Boris has gone about it, and say well done to him. It’s done, there’s a deal, move on.
I never took much notice of the likes of Blair saying we need another vote, oh we are doomed etc. He said something along the lines of don’t let the people make these big decisions ! And John Major another numpty best not heard.
I spoke to my parents about this and COVID and they looked at me and said - they say things are hard, times are easy ! Going to school in the 1940s was hard, hiding under school desks when the sirens went off.
Anyway thats my take on it.
Merry Christmas.
Re: Brexit thread
Posted: 28 Dec 2020, 10:53
by duke63
I see even the Government are now admitting its going to be difficult for a while. I wonder who will end up paying for all the additional red tape and delays??
Re: Brexit thread
Posted: 29 Dec 2020, 10:52
by duke63
Another thing we will miss out on.
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Re: Brexit thread
Posted: 29 Dec 2020, 10:57
by Kwacky
Re: Brexit thread
Posted: 29 Dec 2020, 11:02
by Kwacky
Johnson gambled on Trump getting a second term and failed. We're now a long way back in the queue for trade deals. All we're doing at the moment is signing continuity deals with countries we were trading with before we left the EU
Re: Brexit thread
Posted: 29 Dec 2020, 12:17
by duke63
From 1 January as we enter the EU we will be back to having our passports stamped with the date to make sure we don’t outstay our 90 day allotment.
We may also be asked to show our return ticket and a health insurance certificate to show we have cover.
Re: Brexit thread
Posted: 29 Dec 2020, 12:49
by Kwacky
It's always nice to see two neighbouring nations look out for each other
Re: Brexit thread
Posted: 29 Dec 2020, 12:51
by Frankie
duke63 wrote:From 1 January as we enter the EU we will be back to having our passports stamped with the date to make sure we don’t outstay our 90 day allotment.
We may also be asked to show our return ticket and a health insurance certificate to show we have cover.
I miss being part of the EU, free movement, jump on your bike, catch a plane, travel where you want without to much hassle...... Ah those were the days
