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Scary stuff isn't it?

I wonder how long before we make life on this planet unsustainable through greed and selfishness?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-49892209" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

duke63 wrote:.....

duke63 wrote:...I wonder how long before we make life on this planet unsustainable through greed and selfishness?

Imho we already did that.
When you look at it logically, the planet can "only" really support about 2 billion of us without our presence having a seriously damaging impact on the ecostructure.
We passed that level back in the 1920's.

But isn't that 2 billion people living as we do now?

If we all used less then that would sustain more.

Sainsburys brought our shopping this morning and no bags. Just unload food straight down crate into your home.

duke63 wrote:But isn't that 2 billion people living as we do now?

If we all used less then that would sustain more.

I agree, allowing for a more sustainable approach would allow some wriggle-room on that figure. However 7.5 is far outside of anything that the planet's ecostructure can sustain however you play with the figures.
In some ways it's ironic that the Extinction rebellion has so many children supporters, when it could be argued that they are the very crux of the problem.
If the developed world had spent as much over the last 50+ years on educating & developing in the countries responsible for the largest % increases, instead of waging proxy wars & supporting rebel uprisings, it may not be quite so dire.? -Who knows.

duke63 wrote:But isn't that 2 billion people living as we do now?

If we all used less then that would sustain more.

If we were to love off the land then maybe we would be alright. I'm afraid to say we all want roads, we all want books/ mags newspapers, we all want heating, fresh running water, homes etc. Noone will ever live off the land now and eat only what we kill. We kill to substain what we want regardless of whether we eat it or not. As we build more we kill more. As our hunger grows we kill more. We are a killing machine.



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"I look forward to meeting interesting and stimulating people from an ancient culture....and then kill them!!!!"

D41 wrote:"I look forward to meeting interesting and stimulating people from an ancient culture....and then kill them!!!!"

Their meat might be nice and anicentally tasty?! No seasoning required

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https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-ne ... JPDfIUC.01" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Confusion and division. the money men are everywhere making sure their power is not threatened.

duke63 wrote:https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-ne ... JPDfIUC.01

Confusion and division. the money men are everywhere making sure their power is not threatened.

More people = more demand therefore more profit for those supplying the demands. They are the ones with the power, influence & money.
Simple really imho. Fwiw the same flaws apply to many political issues

duke63 wrote:https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-ne ... JPDfIUC.01

Confusion and division. the money men are everywhere making sure their power is not threatened.

Duke, there's "money men" (should you choose to call them that) financing every political, environmental, business, etc. on the planet.
All this guy Bruhel does is point out that climate-change deniers receive contributions, donations, etc. from people who share similar views.
Just as he gets paid by an private education group/institution to say the exact opposite.
In effect..."It's okay when I get paid to do it, it's not okay of someone else gets paid to disagree".

I've changed my mind. I reckon it will only be 5 years before climate change and the problems its causing us is the biggest political issue out there


FFS just stop raining.

duke63 wrote:I've changed my mind. I reckon it will only be 5 years before climate change and the problems its causing us is the biggest political issue out there


FFS just stop raining.

Send the rain this way please, seriously need a week of downpours to put our countryside fires out

We would send it your way if we could mate

How's it looking at Kiwi Residence?

Inching closer, but I’m safely sitting 3 hours away up the coast. Hoping I don’t have to cut my weekend short.

Fingers crossed Kiwi everything will be ok buddy

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We are getting to the point of no return.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-50614518" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The orange here is CO2

The scientists now believe their understanding of the resilience of the Antarctic ice sheet may be seriously flawed.: Apparently they now think it may be far faster to respond to temperature change than they had been predicting.

Simple physics, as the thickness of the ice decreases it's ability to deal with temp changes decreases so the global warming process actually speeds up