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Re: General Election 2019?

Posted: 14 Dec 2019, 21:18
by duke63
Blade wrote:
duke63 wrote:On the subject of healthcare, I don't believe the NHS will be able to give a decent level of healthcare in 10 years time.

I got a quote for the wife and myself for five years full healthcare in France covering a period of five years. The quote was £15k which in the scheme of things I didn't think was too bad considering our age and it gave full cover for the Big C.

Private healthcare in the UK is very limited in its scope and cost unless you are included in a Company scheme as part of your job. Just this week a client had his company renewal for himself and his wife and the quote was double last year because he had a minor knee op a few months ago. He cant go elsewhere as any new company will not cover his knee.

Out of interest does the quote increase dramatically as you age???

Will the health care cover repeat treatment for chronic conditions?
Yes it jumps quite noticeably with age.

Private healthcare in the UK once past 60 is very expensive from my findings.

If you want repeat treatment for chronic conditions, you will definitely pay heavily for it. My client is not short of money and nor is his company but he baulked at the renewal cost for what is a relatively minor condition. When he queried the renewal cost, he was actually told they have to recover the costs incurred on his behalf this year. With hindsight he was probably better off paying for the op himself instead. They are under no obligation to cover past ailments.

Re: General Election 2019?

Posted: 14 Dec 2019, 21:18
by C00kiemonster
Blade wrote:Sounds good apart from the 20% cost of treatment. I imagine that could be tens of thousands potentially :?

Do you get any rebate or provision after paying into UK healthcare for years, but no longer using it?
Its not that bad as healthcare is not as expensive as it could be. The top up insurance is not a great deal in scheme of things. Because of the way it is run (efficiently) and you need a health card to get healthcare there are no health tourists either. Everything is done electronically (including records) and all costs are declared and shown.

No - i get nothing for paying into UK healthcare for years sadly.

French healthcare is run as a business not an enormous endless pot of money. Mainly state owned though. The NHS could learn a lot.

Re: General Election 2019?

Posted: 14 Dec 2019, 22:05
by kiwikrasher
Blade wrote:Cheers Kiwi some great info thanks for the post.

As I suspected it doesnt sound too different to the UK, which it seems I'm in a minority on here, but I actually still think is a great place to live.

Strange how people see Australia as a desirable place to live but feel the UK isnt when they are so similar.
I wouldn’t say they are ‘so’ similar. Yes in isolation there are some similarities, but I don’t think anyone in the history of forever would say the UK is just like Aussie (lol)

Re: General Election 2019?

Posted: 14 Dec 2019, 22:50
by Blade
C00kiemonster wrote:
Blade wrote:Sounds good apart from the 20% cost of treatment. I imagine that could be tens of thousands potentially :?

Do you get any rebate or provision after paying into UK healthcare for years, but no longer using it?
Its not that bad as healthcare is not as expensive as it could be. The top up insurance is not a great deal in scheme of things. Because of the way it is run (efficiently) and you need a health card to get healthcare there are no health tourists either. Everything is done electronically (including records) and all costs are declared and shown.

No - i get nothing for paying into UK healthcare for years sadly.

French healthcare is run as a business not an enormous endless pot of money. Mainly state owned though. The NHS could learn a lot.
Disgusting that you get nothing for paying into UK healthcare for years. Really disgusting.

Good to hear you have good cover in France and agree the NHS needs to be run much more efficiently as well as better funded.

Re: General Election 2019?

Posted: 15 Dec 2019, 08:34
by D41
kiwikrasher wrote: I don’t think anyone in the history of forever would say the UK is just like Aussie (lol)

(rolf) (rolf)

Re: General Election 2019?

Posted: 16 Dec 2019, 09:21
by duke63
Very much my feelings on it all. If people the other side of the world can see the truth, why are so many so blind to reality in the UK?

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Re: General Election 2019?

Posted: 16 Dec 2019, 09:36
by Kwacky
I was talking to someone at the football on Saturday. He couldn't vote for Corbyn because "he'll open the floodgates and that lot will vote for him, so we'll never get rid of him". His daughter gave him a dressing down for about 10 minutes into the second half. He wasn't aware that the EU can and do control immigration. But that doesn't matter, because we're leaving anyway.

Re: General Election 2019?

Posted: 16 Dec 2019, 09:47
by Cav
This is the problem. We can achieve EVERYTHING we wanted to achieve from within the EU but those in charge with hidden agendas keep that well hidden from most.

The biggest annoyance for me was the lack of effort people went to to educate themselves. Everyone says they want what's best for the country but they put zero effort into it.

For example, my own aunty voted Tory because she couldn't have Corbyn in. This is her reasoning:
>He's married to an Arab > Arabs hate Jews > He's anti-semitic > He hates Trump because Trump funds Jews > He can't be trusted. There was obviously the argument about him supporting terrorists.

10 seconds to Google that Corbyn's Wife is Mexican instantly disproving the remainder of her argument. 10 seconds is all it took.

Re: General Election 2019?

Posted: 16 Dec 2019, 10:16
by duke63
Too many people believe the bullshit they are fed without questioning any of it.

There was a brilliant post doing the rounds on FB over the weekend, questioning those who voted Brexit and those who actually promoted how wonderful it will be and Britain will be a land of milk and honey.

Well Johnson, you have 5 years to prove it...and many are watching you very very carefully.....

And if it all goes pear shaped...you will be on the run...

Re: General Election 2019?

Posted: 16 Dec 2019, 11:05
by Monty
Ash wrote:
D41 wrote:
Monty wrote: Around 14 million people if you’re interested.

14 million using food banks?
You're sure about that??
!.6 million food parcels were given out during the last 6 months, google it.
14 million, sounds a bit like it's one of Diane Abbot's figures.

Maybe Monty donated his food and drink purchase to one of the food banks in London..........
I meant there are 14 million people living in poverty. They probably don't all go to the food bank on the same day.

Does anyone think that's acceptable in the 6th richest nation in the world?

Re: General Election 2019?

Posted: 16 Dec 2019, 11:16
by Ash
I think the question here is this, as a socialist supporter do you think it is acceptable to go out on the lash at someone else's cost.

Re: General Election 2019?

Posted: 16 Dec 2019, 11:29
by Monty
Ash wrote:I think the question here is this, as a socialist supporter do you think it is acceptable to go out on the lash at someone else's cost.
Seriously?

Re: General Election 2019?

Posted: 16 Dec 2019, 14:00
by D41
The Independent....the toilet-tissue-of- choice for many people, cites that around 4 million Brits are currently using food banks....or around 1 in 14 people. They give Oxfam & a group called "Church" as their sources for those numbers.

Re: General Election 2019?

Posted: 16 Dec 2019, 14:05
by D41
Ooops....I stand corrected, Monty....The Institute For Fiscal Studies does in fact give a figure of 14.1M as being below the poverty line. Congrats.

Re: General Election 2019?

Posted: 16 Dec 2019, 17:05
by Ash
Monty wrote:
Ash wrote:I think the question here is this, as a socialist supporter do you think it is acceptable to go out on the lash at someone else's cost.
Seriously?
Well I could say yes and elaborate, but no, it's a piss take.

Re: General Election 2019?

Posted: 16 Dec 2019, 17:17
by Monty
Oh it was a joke, you so funny!

Re: General Election 2019?

Posted: 16 Dec 2019, 17:19
by Ash
You don't mean that do you.

Re: General Election 2019?

Posted: 16 Dec 2019, 17:36
by Monty
What do you think?

Re: General Election 2019?

Posted: 16 Dec 2019, 17:50
by Kwacky
Play nicely people. It's almost Christmas

Re: General Election 2019?

Posted: 16 Dec 2019, 18:44
by D41
Yes, if you want to argue during the holiday season then there's a time and a place for it.
Christmas Eve at the shopping mall. (y)