General Election 2019?

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Re: General Election 2019?

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The result under PR
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Blade wrote:Couple of genuine questions for kiwi as I genuinely don't know the answers, but I don't think Australia is much different to the UK at the moment.
To be completely honest, i know less about the Australian politic situation than i do about the UK, because I'm on TS so much I'm well schooled with varied viewpoints on your political situation (lol)
Blade wrote:Isn't a conservatism government in power in Australia at the moment?
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Blade wrote:Is Austriala part of any union with neighbouring countries or have they made independent free trade agreements with a number of other independent countries?
Australia is part of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC), the Comprehensive and Progressive Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP) and the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP).

we have an Australia-New Zealand Closer Economic Relations Trade Agreement

We have an Australia-European Union Free Trade Agreement.

there is a number of other trade/economic agreements, but these or the ones that i knew to look for....
Blade wrote:Has Australia got reasonable controls on immigration?
That's very subjective. They have always struggled with illegal immigration (usually by boat via Indonesia) and detention situations, but welcome legal immigration in large numbers to sustain growth. I don't believe in growth as the ideal economical policy so I don't entirely agree with the rate of immigration for that purpose. I do believe in taking genuine immigrants on humanitarian grounds, but that is not a simple situation to manage as well all know.
Blade wrote:Was The Australian Medicare system ranked lower than the NHS in a recent survey?
Dunno. In reality I know without Private medical insurance, there are long waiting lists.

Real world example, Jess saw a specialist last week. With her being on my company provided medical insurance she is having surgery next week. If she had have gone public it was a minimum 3 month wait, even though she is dealing with a significant amount of pain and her situation has previously had her need emergency surgery.
Blade wrote:Genuine questions, not a wind up.

Grass always seems better on the other side, but reality will tell you that isn't always the case.

Duke is right, it's scorching hot here at times, yet I found the winters still to cold. I like to be hot. I'm happy at mid 30's, anything under 20 and I have heating going. 38+ is a bit challenging, 43+ is completely fecked and I try not to work outside, though have still purposely gone on the bike. But it's a big country with varying climates and I definitely don't live in the most ideal area for that. And yes at the moment the fires are a real bummer.

Nutz, the totty is pretty good at times (happy)

Kwacky, you can do corners better than me I reckon, so you qualify. A lot of guys I've tried to ride with in Aussie don't agree speed limits are a guide or that the last 2 inch edge of your tyre are to be used.
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Sounds nice.

Can I come & live with you??
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D41 wrote:Sounds nice.

Can I come & live with you??
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(rolf) (rolf) (rolf)

I sense a slight reluctance on your part.
Possibly.
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Cheers Kiwi some great info thanks for the post.

As I suspected it doesnt sound too different to the UK, which it seems I'm in a minority on here, but I actually still think is a great place to live.

Strange how people see Australia as a desirable place to live but feel the UK isnt when they are so similar.
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Kwacky wrote:The result under PR
TBH I was already aware of the statistics, which is why my previous post included the observation:
StMarks wrote:,,,,,,,,, --or is it just that our populous have become so complacent & presumptuous that it's not simply "the system" that's at fault.??
The largest group percentage, again, is those #@$&%£@### $&%$@#s who didn't even vote.! (headbang)

On a connected subject, I wonder what the percentage is of people who intentionally "spoilt their ballots" this time.? -I know of a few, which suggests there may have been a fair few.?
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I merely posted the figures for information. It wasn't a slight at you. I merely thought people might like to see the figures.
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Blade wrote:Cheers Kiwi some great info thanks for the post.

As I suspected it doesnt sound too different to the UK, which it seems I'm in a minority on here, but I actually still think is a great place to live.

Strange how people see Australia as a desirable place to live but feel the UK isnt when they are so similar.
Australia doesn't appeal to me. I want somewhere with a more laid back style of life these days.

I would also like enough land to grow many of my own vegetables and some fruit. I suspect the mass produced food sold here and elsewhere has a significant impact on the rising cancer rates .
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duke63 wrote:
Blade wrote:Cheers Kiwi some great info thanks for the post.

As I suspected it doesnt sound too different to the UK, which it seems I'm in a minority on here, but I actually still think is a great place to live.

Strange how people see Australia as a desirable place to live but feel the UK isnt when they are so similar.
Australia doesn't appeal to me. I want somewhere with a more laid back style of life these days.

I would also like enough land to grow many of my own vegetables and some fruit. I suspect the mass produced food sold here and elsewhere has a significant impact on the rising cancer rates .
Totally agree. Nothing like him grown stuff 8)
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On the subject of healthcare, I don't believe the NHS will be able to give a decent level of healthcare in 10 years time.

I got a quote for the wife and myself for five years full healthcare in France covering a period of five years. The quote was £15k which in the scheme of things I didn't think was too bad considering our age and it gave full cover for the Big C.

Private healthcare in the UK is very limited in its scope and cost unless you are included in a Company scheme as part of your job. Just this week a client had his company renewal for himself and his wife and the quote was double last year because he had a minor knee op a few months ago. He cant go elsewhere as any new company will not cover his knee.
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duke63 wrote:On the subject of healthcare, I don't believe the NHS will be able to give a decent level of healthcare in 10 years time.

I got a quote for the wife and myself for five years full healthcare in France covering a period of five years. The quote was £15k which in the scheme of things I didn't think was too bad considering our age and it gave full cover for the Big C.

Private healthcare in the UK is very limited in its scope and cost unless you are included in a Company scheme as part of your job. Just this week a client had his company renewal for himself and his wife and the quote was double last year because he had a minor knee op a few months ago. He cant go elsewhere as any new company will not cover his knee.
Health care in France is excellent and well run. We've been impressed.
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Do you pay private Cookie? Or are you entitled to state run healthcare? Not sure what the options are in France tbh.
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duke63 wrote:On the subject of healthcare, I don't believe the NHS will be able to give a decent level of healthcare in 10 years time.

I got a quote for the wife and myself for five years full healthcare in France covering a period of five years. The quote was £15k which in the scheme of things I didn't think was too bad considering our age and it gave full cover for the Big C.

Private healthcare in the UK is very limited in its scope and cost unless you are included in a Company scheme as part of your job. Just this week a client had his company renewal for himself and his wife and the quote was double last year because he had a minor knee op a few months ago. He cant go elsewhere as any new company will not cover his knee.

Out of interest does the quote increase dramatically as you age???

Will the health care cover repeat treatment for chronic conditions?
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Blade wrote:Do you pay private Cookie? Or are you entitled to state run healthcare? Not sure what the options are in France tbh.
Both. Because I can support myself and pay tax the state pay most of it and then there is topup insurance which you can choose the level so you can have your own room etc etc.

There are also no waiting lists.
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Blade wrote:
duke63 wrote:On the subject of healthcare, I don't believe the NHS will be able to give a decent level of healthcare in 10 years time.

I got a quote for the wife and myself for five years full healthcare in France covering a period of five years. The quote was £15k which in the scheme of things I didn't think was too bad considering our age and it gave full cover for the Big C.

Private healthcare in the UK is very limited in its scope and cost unless you are included in a Company scheme as part of your job. Just this week a client had his company renewal for himself and his wife and the quote was double last year because he had a minor knee op a few months ago. He cant go elsewhere as any new company will not cover his knee.

Out of interest does the quote increase dramatically as you age???

Will the health care cover repeat treatment for chronic conditions?
No, as the state stop profiteering of insurance companies.

Yes it does cover all treatment for chronic conditions usually.
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C00kiemonster wrote:
No, as the state stop profiteering of insurance companies.
Dirty fecking socialists interfering with profits. How dare they.
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C00kiemonster wrote:
Blade wrote:Do you pay private Cookie? Or are you entitled to state run healthcare? Not sure what the options are in France tbh.
Both. Because I can support myself and pay tax the state pay most of it and then there is topup insurance which you can choose the level so you can have your own room etc etc.

There are also no waiting lists.
No waiting lists is very good. Is that the same if you dont have top up insurance?
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Blade wrote:
C00kiemonster wrote:
Blade wrote:Do you pay private Cookie? Or are you entitled to state run healthcare? Not sure what the options are in France tbh.
Both. Because I can support myself and pay tax the state pay most of it and then there is topup insurance which you can choose the level so you can have your own room etc etc.

There are also no waiting lists.
No waiting lists is very good. Is that the same if you dont have top up insurance?
Exactly the same. The only thing you do pay then is about 15 - 20% of the treatment.
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Sounds good apart from the 20% cost of treatment. I imagine that could be tens of thousands potentially :?

Do you get any rebate or provision after paying into UK healthcare for years, but no longer using it?
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