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Re: Coronavirus - hype or pandemlc?

Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 12:10
by duke63
Give it two weeks and there will be no point going out as everywhere will be closed.

Re: Coronavirus - hype or pandemlc?

Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 12:18
by D41
We're just about at that point here already, D.
Pathetic Earthlings.

Re: Coronavirus - hype or pandemlc?

Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 18:38
by Kwacky
Most places shut now. A lot of job and wages protection. Delays in payments and VAT. Wide measures

Re: Coronavirus - hype or pandemlc?

Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 18:45
by D41
The cuts they've been suggesting here just don't seem feasible. They seem mainly aimed at prevention...and I understand that....but they can't possibly be sustainable.

Re: Coronavirus - hype or pandemlc?

Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 19:00
by C00kiemonster
Kwacky wrote:Most places shut now. A lot of job and wages protection. Delays in payments and VAT. Wide measures
I'll be honest i think they have the right idea. Gradual shutdown. Shutting down an economy totally - like France is slightly too far.

Re: Coronavirus - hype or pandemlc?

Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 19:04
by kingfixer
Well that was an eye opening set of measures by the government

Re: Coronavirus - hype or pandemlc?

Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 19:07
by C00kiemonster
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Just in case your worried.

Re: Coronavirus - hype or pandemlc?

Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 19:10
by D41
:D

That plan will go right out the window if I start eating Indian food.

Re: Coronavirus - hype or pandemlc?

Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 20:16
by duke63
Free money...yayyy. I'm off to order my Streetfighter V4S tomorrow. :D

Re: Coronavirus - hype or pandemlc?

Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 20:22
by kingfixer
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Re: Coronavirus - hype or pandemlc?

Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 20:29
by duke63
They will be giving our grants for toilet paper to all companies soon as all the staff take their daily dump at work.

Re: Coronavirus - hype or pandemlc?

Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 20:35
by kingfixer
Well they’re giving grants etc for everything else they may as well do :D

Re: Coronavirus - hype or pandemlc?

Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 21:11
by D41
kingfixer wrote:
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Perfect!!

"Hey, good to see you...to what do I owe the pleasure...??"

"I just came by to wipe!" (squelches through the door).

Re: Coronavirus - hype or pandemlc?

Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 21:19
by Blade
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What I dont get is if the largest study today shows only 4.7% of cases are critical and people 59 and under unlikely to die, why then is the whole country in locked down? Why dont they just ask the people 60 and over or anyone with under lying health conditions to self quarantine? These are the groups of people that will overload the NHS. Surely if we just quarantine these high risk groups of people and keep them safe then the majority can go about things as normal.

The current over reaction of everyone isolate and go into lock down is over kill which will put companys out of buisness, loose people there jobs, cost the youth a big chunk of their education as they will spend years trying to catch up, cost the tax payer £350 billion that needs paying back and why????? For the majority of people the stats show the illness to be mild and none life threatening.

For a very large majority it's not alot worse than a week off work with seasonal flu. If the at risk people were quarantined and protected the rest of us could go about buiness as normal and keep the economy and jobs alive.

I just dont understand in the grand scheme of things the benefit of everybody in lock down. We were originally told we were delaying the curve and the shock to the NHS. If only the 60+ and people with under lying health condition are the ones at serious, credible risk, then keeping just them in lock down will reduce any burden on the NHS. For example if I get it, I wont burden the NHS. I'll stay at home, moan at the wife I'm dying, taking some paracetamol, drinking some chicken soup, hide under a duvet for a week, binge watch TV box sets and emerge fine as will many other healthy people. I wont be a burden to the NHS or the economy or contribute towards putting peoples jobs at risk.

Re: Coronavirus - hype or pandemlc?

Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 21:40
by Kwacky
Because it's not just age related at risk. It attacks the lungs, so anyone with lung issues is at risk. That's just one of the issues.

Looking just at deaths doesn't tell the whole story. It doesn't tell you how many got the illness, ended up needing treatment and survived. They take up valuable resources and time.

People being ill with mild symptoms still have to take time off work. This thing spreads very quickly and there's no immunity to it even if you've had it before. To do nothing means a stock workforce for the foreseeable future, which will have a massive impact on the economy.

The countries who have dealt with this the quickest are those who went on shutdown.

Re: Coronavirus - hype or pandemlc?

Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 21:41
by Kwacky
And another thing, it can take up to 2 weeks to show symptoms, that's if you get symptoms. A lot of carriers are asymptomatic.

So you can be spreading without knowing.

Re: Coronavirus - hype or pandemlc?

Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 21:51
by Blade
Kwacky wrote:Because it's not just age related at risk. It attacks the lungs, so anyone with lung issues is at risk. That's just one of the issues.

In fairness I did say under lying health conditions as well.

Looking just at deaths doesn't tell the whole story. It doesn't tell you how many got the illness, ended up needing treatment and survived. They take up valuable resources and time.

The largest survey to date says most people are mildly ill and as such can self treat so they dont take up any resource.

People being ill with mild symptoms still have to take time off work.

Same with seasonal flu, people phone in sick no difference, couple of days off and back to work


This thing spreads very quickly and there's no immunity to it even if you've had it before. To do nothing means a stock workforce for the foreseeable future, which will have a massive impact on the economy.

The countries who have dealt with this the quickest are those who went on shutdown.
I agree its effective but at what price ? Not just in pounds, but in jobs and education? Surely protect the at risk groups and prioritise the response ans resources where best utilised. Yes over reaction will be effective but when people dont have jobs to go back to what will be said with hindsight????

It's a pandemic, as horrible as that is there will be casualties that's just a horrible fact, but limited resources need to be targeted appropriately and specifically or the aftermath and fall out could be worse than the event.

Re: Coronavirus - hype or pandemlc?

Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 22:20
by Perkles
Read my thread about Italy, if we dont act now were fooked

Re: Coronavirus - hype or pandemlc?

Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 23:05
by Kwacky
Blade, have you read what support the government is providing?

Re: Coronavirus - hype or pandemlc?

Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 23:28
by Kwacky
True story