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Re: Blade's next bike

Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 19:28
by Blade
Kwacky wrote:You've already decided on the 1050, haven't you? :)
It's the favourite yes but only in my head. Test ride has to live up to expectations and I need to gel with the bike (y)

I was impressed by the Multistrada and the 1250RS but being vain I like the look of the speed triple more and I'me really enjoying the triple power delivery and sound track from the little 675 (raaar)

Glad you started the thread though (y) as I may have blinkers on and can't see wood for trees, so welcome to suggestions (lol)

Re: Blade's next bike

Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 19:57
by StMarks
D41 wrote:Aprilia seem to favour schemes that are a touch gaudy. They're like a hooker at a wedding.
I always like the way they break up "Aprilia" to read "Ap i ia" or sommit across the bike.
I don't think mine's too gaudy.?

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Re: Blade's next bike

Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 19:58
by D6
I think you should try and find a 2016 r and rs together and have a look initially. See which you prefer. Then ride it.

Re: Blade's next bike

Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 19:58
by D6
StMarks wrote:
D41 wrote:Aprilia seem to favour schemes that are a touch gaudy. They're like a hooker at a wedding.
I always like the way they break up "Aprilia" to read "Ap i ia" or sommit across the bike.
I don't think mine's too gaudy.?

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That's one of my favourite all time bikes

Re: Blade's next bike

Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 20:04
by StMarks
D6 wrote:...That's one of my favourite all time bikes
I'll let you know, if I decide to sell her mate. ;)
Only 8k miles from new, & (literally) never seen a drop of rain.

Re: Blade's next bike

Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 20:06
by Blade
D6 wrote:I think you should try and find a 2016 r and rs together and have a look initially. See which you prefer. Then ride it.
Really appreciate your insight D (y)

What exactly are the real world benefits off the RS over the R?

As far as I can see there is no significant styling update, no change in suspension or brakes, no big power or torque increase just subtle changes to the electronics and an IMU on the RS and that's not worth the big increase in outlay for a new RS over a nearly new R imo.

Was your outgoing bike a 2016MY?

Re: Blade's next bike

Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 20:23
by D6
No mine was 2013 and never had ohlins.

The difference between r and rs is probably small on the road. But I've not rode the r. Only my version. I wouldn't say it's night and day but it is better and more refined. The clutch and gearbox are a lot nicer feeling. The engine defo spins faster than mine.

I've also only used mine in road setting so far. Not tried sport or track. So really I can't give too good a comparison

Re: Blade's next bike

Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 20:24
by Kwacky
Blade wrote:
What exactly are the real world benefits off the RS over the R?

As far as I can see there is no significant styling update, no change in suspension or brakes, no big power or torque increase just subtle changes to the electronics and an IMU on the RS and that's not worth the big increase in outlay for a new RS over a nearly new R imo.

Was your outgoing bike a 2016MY?
Stop being a tight fit and buy the better bike (lol)

Re: Blade's next bike

Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 20:27
by Blade
D6 wrote:No mine was 2013 and never had ohlins.

The difference between r and rs is probably small on the road. But I've not rode the r. Only my version. I wouldn't say it's night and day but it is better and more refined. The clutch and gearbox are a lot nicer feeling. The engine defo spins faster than mine.

I've also only used mine in road setting so far. Not tried sport or track. So really I can't give too good a comparison
I read pre MY16 gearboxes are made of chocolate and you should avoid fitting Quickshifters but big improvements on the MY16 although not sure if any further update in 18?

Re: Blade's next bike

Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 20:29
by D6
I struggle to remember which changes happen when, as I see so many. Lol.

I know my 2019 is far better than my 2013

Slip assist clutch If I recall correctly.

Re: Blade's next bike

Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 20:31
by Blade
Kwacky wrote:
Blade wrote:
What exactly are the real world benefits off the RS over the R?

As far as I can see there is no significant styling update, no change in suspension or brakes, no big power or torque increase just subtle changes to the electronics and an IMU on the RS and that's not worth the big increase in outlay for a new RS over a nearly new R imo.

Was your outgoing bike a 2016MY?
Stop being a tight fit and buy the better bike (lol)
No I need the £6000 price difference for cocaine and hookers (smoking)

Re: Blade's next bike

Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 20:51
by Blade
Was going to post an apology for hijacking Cookies thread but it's locked :?

Fair point and sorry (lol)

Re: Blade's next bike

Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 20:51
by duke63
The 1050 Triumph engine is one of the great road engines, IMHO. It does however run out of revs fairly early when pushing on (or at least my 2010 did). May have changed in the last few years. It is probably one of the torquiest engines out there and pulls from almost anywhere at every speed in any gear. Great sound too when it spits and pops on the over run.

Re: Blade's next bike

Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 20:56
by Blade
duke63 wrote:The 1050 Triumph engine is one of the great road engines, IMHO. It does however run out of revs fairly early when pushing on (or at least my 2010 did). May have changed in the last few years. It is probably one of the torquiest engines out there and pulls from almost anywhere at every speed in any gear. Great sound too when it spits and pops on the over run.
Crikey is that 9 year ago :?

Re: Blade's next bike

Posted: 11 Jul 2019, 09:33
by Kwacky
I've had a few bikes fixed in my head as being ideal and a few I would never think of owning end up in my keep.

The Versys 650 is a prime example. Ugly to look at not, on paper sounds crap and a generally stuffy reputation. Now I think it's the best bike going for commuting on and I've had some great trips and rides on it. It makes my smile because it shouldn't work as well as it does.

The Yamaha Tracer 900 and then the KRM Adventure 1090 both sounded ideal. They ticked all of the boxes and the reviews were great.

Both disappointed me.

I do feel that some people ride bikes that they think they have to own or be seen riding. It's very noticeable on the Performance Bikes Forum where a lot of people dismiss a bike because it's been slagged off in a magazine, so they've made their mid up about a bike they've not ridden. Madness.

Anyway, it's just my personal experience that test rides are the clincher and my advice to everyone looking for a bike is to keep an open mind, even to the bikes you think you don't want.

Re: Blade's next bike

Posted: 11 Jul 2019, 09:48
by Stonesie
Same with me and the Speed Triple, natural successor to my Street Triple? It should have been but I found it uncomfortable and just didn't gel with it at all, bought the bike that made me giggle despite its looks and thirst, the MT-10.

Re: Blade's next bike

Posted: 11 Jul 2019, 10:12
by duke63
Two bikes i want to test ride - Yamaha Tenere 700 and the KTM 790 Adventure R.

Re: Blade's next bike

Posted: 11 Jul 2019, 10:22
by Kwacky
Have you seen the price of the KTM?

Re: Blade's next bike

Posted: 11 Jul 2019, 13:25
by duke63
£12k. Considering the spec I don’t think that is bad. The top spec Tiger 800 is more.

I’ve asked about the Tenere 700 too but Yamaha don’t expect any dealer bikes til September.

Re: Blade's next bike

Posted: 11 Jul 2019, 13:34
by Kwacky
The Tiger looks much better IMO. I really don't like the overall look an how plastic the KTM appears. I guess they're going more for the practical feel.