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Cav wrote:How long does this "full immunity" last?
42 days so far.... Well that's as long as the long term tests lasted (I think the days are right but happy to be corrected)

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Not very long then...
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Wait what? The 42 days comes from the length of the actual test?
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Birmingham in tier 3 but none of our hospitals have been allowed the vaccine.

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How long do you want them to test it for, Monty... until half the population has been wiped out, and then bring it to market??
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Monty wrote:Wait what? The 42 days comes from the length of the actual test?
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... ionals.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Have a look at section 4.8... It details the trial, participant breakdown, and timelines.
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D41 wrote:How long do you want them to test it for, Monty... until half the population has been wiped out, and then bring it to market??
Until we know it's effective and safe... so COVID doesn't wipe out one half of the population while the vaccine wipes out the other half.
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D41 wrote:How long do you want them to test it for, Monty... until half the population has been wiped out, and then bring it to market??
Don't be a dick.
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Cav wrote:How long does this "full immunity" last?
42 days so far.... Well that's as long as the long term tests lasted (I think the days are right but happy to be corrected)

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It says they were monitored for 2 months after their 2nd injection so we can assume 3 months total.
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Cav wrote:
D6Nutz wrote:
Cav wrote:How long does this "full immunity" last?
42 days so far.... Well that's as long as the long term tests lasted (I think the days are right but happy to be corrected)

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It says they were monitored for 2 months after their 2nd injection so we can assume 3 months total.
:?
The cynic in me can clearly see that from the manufacturer's perspective, the more limited period of immunisation potentially offers far greater long term profitability.?
But then if you can sell the idea of two doses per vaccination, that's not actually a bad start is it.? (smirk)
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StMarks wrote:
Cav wrote:
D6Nutz wrote:42 days so far.... Well that's as long as the long term tests lasted (I think the days are right but happy to be corrected)

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It says they were monitored for 2 months after their 2nd injection so we can assume 3 months total.
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The cynic in me can clearly see that from the manufacturer's perspective, the more limited period of immunisation potentially offers far greater long term profitability.?
But then if you can sell the idea of two doses per vaccination, that's not actually a bad start is it.? (smirk)
And then there's mutation.

How targeted is the vaccine and will it still be effective if (or more likely when) the virus mutates?

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D6Nutz wrote:.......And then there's mutation.

How targeted is the vaccine and will it still be effective if (or more likely when) the virus mutates?
I imagine there's going to be plenty of time to get into a flap (see what I did there) about the mutant variant when Cv19 meets the country's resurging Avian Flu.?
Perhaps the UK will be be showing the rest of the world their lead, once again.?? (whew)
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Cav wrote:
D41 wrote:How long do you want them to test it for, Monty... until half the population has been wiped out, and then bring it to market??
Don't be a dick.
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Monty wrote:Now we've had a bit more info on the vaccine (both positive and negative) what's everyone planning to do, I'm still very undecided.
Here in Aussie we are waiting to see how many in the UK grow two heads first.

When it does roll out here, I’ll have to get it to be allowed to travel to work and back “internationally”. I guess it should remove all the quarantine I’m currently doing.
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Monty wrote:
Cav wrote:
D41 wrote:How long do you want them to test it for, Monty... until half the population has been wiped out, and then bring it to market??
Don't be a dick.
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Well this is a reassuring read

https://www.theguardian.com/science/202 ... tudy-shows" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Kwacky wrote:Well this is a reassuring read

https://www.theguardian.com/science/202 ... tudy-shows" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I know the French medical system had recommended not taking anything that claims to boost the immune system once you felt unwell. This was some months ago.


In other news my mum has been given her appointment next Friday for her first vaccination. I've not heard of anyone else receiving an appointment so far.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/14/london- ... rules.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

London moves into tier 3, as I assume all politicians move out to their second home to avoid restrictions.

Reassuring to know they are fairly sure it won't cause any worse symptoms than the original and the vaccine will most likely work.

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More than 5 people have confirmed cases of Covid at my place of work - all of them in the Production teams. They're in "bubbles" so everyone is isolating 7 days if confirmed or 10 days if unconfirmed.

I've not been in more than once in the last 2 weeks and I won't be going back in before Christmas if possible, I'm not unnecessarily increasing mine and my families risk.
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That's a lot. My mate is in Bristol and he knows a lot of people who have tested positive for it in the last month. He's refused to go into the office (he's supposed to go in 2 days a week).
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