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duke63 wrote:Having read the real thing, there isn't a lot that I disagree with and plenty i do agree with.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50501411" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I've been feeling pretty negative, but that really cheered me up.

I've spent my life fighting Neoliberalism and Thacher/Reaganism but frankly, this current crop is far far worse than anything that came before.

Sadly I suspect the best we can hope for is a minority government which won't allow us to implement what could be the most transformational manifesto since Clement Attlee built the NHS.

My gut feeling is we are going to lose votes to the Lib Dems in urban areas in the South and to the Tories and Brexit party in the North.

My gut feeling is we will end up with a Labour/LibDem/SNP coalition simply so they can defeat Boris and Farage....and hopefully Brexit.

The Lib Dems have already ruled that out and have come out in support for Boris. As a Labour member/campaigner I can tell you that hell would freeze over before we'd go into coalition with them.

20 years ago with Ashdown and Kennedy maybe, but Swinson and Davey are the Tories and certainly not centrists anymore.

https://www.counterfire.org/articles/op ... government" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

duke63 wrote:Having read the real thing, there isn't a lot that i disagree with and plenty i do agree with.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50501411" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I also read this earlier and thought similar. It reads like a series of policies that have been thought through and stand a chance of seeing implementation.

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Monty wrote:The Lib Dems have already ruled that out and have come out in support for Boris. As a Labour member/campaigner I can tell you that hell would freeze over before we'd go into coalition with them.

20 years ago with Ashdown and Kennedy maybe, but Swinson and Davey are the Tories and certainly not centrists anymore.

Jesus wept.

Corbyn is anti EU, anyways has been. The liberals want to stop brexit.

Which of the proposals in the liberal manifesto sound like conservative policies? Legalising marijuana, increasing taxes, offering free child care?

The liberals have arranged deals with other parties in marginal seats. Labour have refused

It's true constant "anyone but Corbyn are tories" shit that's ensured the media has persuaded the public that Corbyn is an anti British Communist loving terrorist adoring threat to national security.

It's the blinkers on Corbyn and his fan club sand the absolute inflexibility as you've highlighted in your own posts that'll ensure Johnson gets in and a hard brexit is delivered.

Monty, if the option for the other Parties was to see Johnson in charge and have no say or form a coalition and have some say, I know which they will choose, without a doubt .

What they say before an election will change once they see the results.

Kwacky wrote:

Monty wrote:The Lib Dems have already ruled that out and have come out in support for Boris. As a Labour member/campaigner I can tell you that hell would freeze over before we'd go into coalition with them.

20 years ago with Ashdown and Kennedy maybe, but Swinson and Davey are the Tories and certainly not centrists anymore.

Jesus wept.

Corbyn is anti EU, anyways has been. The liberals want to stop brexit.

Which of the proposals in the liberal manifesto sound like conservative policies? Legalising marijuana, increasing taxes, offering free child care?

The liberals have arranged deals with other parties in marginal seats. Labour have refused

It's true constant "anyone but Corbyn are tories" shit that's ensured the media has persuaded the public that Corbyn is an anti British Communist loving terrorist adoring threat to national security.

It's the blinkers on Corbyn and his fan club sand the absolute inflexibility as you've highlighted in your own posts that'll ensure Johnson gets in and a hard brexit is delivered.

**** deluded!

duke63 wrote:Monty, if the option for the other Parties was to see Johnson in charge and have no say or form a coalition and have some say, I know which they will choose, without a doubt .

What they say before an election will change once they see the results.

True, I can only hope

QED

Ok what did you prove?

The Lib Dem have come out to today and basically climbed down on the utter fantasy that they can win the general election. Now explain to me how they are keeping Boris out.

https://www.thetorymanifesto.com/

C00kiemonster wrote:

https://www.thetorymanifesto.com/

What's the message

It's not that clear, but I'm sensing a theme

Jennifer Arcuri doesn't seem to be on the list.

Or has he done that already and moved on?

duke63 wrote:Jennifer Arcuri doesn't seem to be on the list.

Or has he done that already and moved on?

He will give her a bell when hes had a few

Monty wrote:
I've spent my life fighting Neoliberalism and Thacher/Reaganism but frankly, this current crop is far far worse than anything that came before.

"fighting"?????

Lemme guess....you're one of those who is "in the trenches", as it were??