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Re: Brexit thread

Posted: 18 Jan 2020, 20:02
by D6Nutz
D6Nutz wrote:Here's What The £500,000 Big Ben Brexit Bong Fund Could Have Paid For A Few Metres Away
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... 621f70da11" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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BOJO the clown... Fecking cockwomble number 1..

Boris Johnson Backs Off Big Ben Bongs Plan To Mark Brexit Day
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... e44b937b27" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In the same 24 hour period where Sajid Javid admits a big number of industry sectors will be worse off after brexit...


Project fear? **** stupidity!

But don't worry, he's said the economy will grow 2% more than any of the statistical bodies..

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Re: Brexit thread

Posted: 18 Jan 2020, 20:15
by duke63
Peston has Johnson's plans already worked out...as unworkable for most industries that export to the EU from the UK.

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-01-18/rob ... stination/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That means there will necessarily be checks at the border for compliance with EU standards which for some businesses - car makers, livestock and agrifood exporters, chemicals manufacturers - will be onerous. Some may well move plant and people across the Channel, to avoid the new friction at Dover and Calais.

It means the City of London will have to become more global and less eurozone focused.

It will bring costs to businesses - and therefore to all of us, as a result of reduced economic growth and smaller increments in tax revenues available to find public services - than would otherwise be the case.

Re: Brexit thread

Posted: 18 Jan 2020, 20:34
by Kwacky
And then they'll be the tax cuts for financial businesses to encourage them into the UK.

Re: Brexit thread

Posted: 18 Jan 2020, 23:30
by duke63
But they wont come unless there is a market for them.

Business is not a game or a political point of view. They are there to make a profit. If they can make more profit by being based within the EU then that is what they will do.

Ironically the industries that will be hit hardest will be farming and fisheries as they cannot afford delays in fresh produce, nor can they afford high tariffs as they will have some of the highest.

Re: Brexit thread

Posted: 18 Jan 2020, 23:39
by Kwacky
Financial institutions don't have to worry about borders the same way farmers do. Which is why off shore accounts are, well, off shore.

And it looks great for the country figures. But these companies don't pay tax. So you're sold the lie about trickle down economics.

Every tax haven has a massive poor population. Trickle down never works.

Re: Brexit thread

Posted: 19 Jan 2020, 00:05
by duke63
The whole Brexit thing gets more laughable by the day.

With the exception of JLR, no other automotive factory in the UK is investing in the future. Johnson's vision of future Britain is not one they share.

Producing in the UK to export to the EU will no longer work.

Re: Brexit thread

Posted: 19 Jan 2020, 09:11
by StMarks
Kwacky wrote:. Trickle down never works.
Clue is in the name.?

I really, really hope all our misgivings are proved wrong - and that this country finds a way to prosper from this. :S

Re: Brexit thread

Posted: 19 Jan 2020, 11:37
by duke63
Not a chance In a world where travel and transportation will get more expensive and more difficult to do.

Re: Brexit thread

Posted: 19 Jan 2020, 22:33
by Kwacky
(bandit)

Re: Brexit thread

Posted: 19 Jan 2020, 22:51
by duke63
There will be many more making this decision

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ter-brexit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Brexit thread

Posted: 20 Jan 2020, 01:12
by D41
It makes sense.....with Brexit comes uncertainty, with the EU comes stability. Or at least the belief of it.

Re: Brexit thread

Posted: 20 Jan 2020, 08:13
by Kwacky
There should be a lot less uncertainty but our government doesn't seem to know what is doing or what a post Brexit UK will look like.

Re: Brexit thread

Posted: 20 Jan 2020, 09:11
by duke63
It’s pandering to the ERG rather than using common sense.

Re: Brexit thread

Posted: 20 Jan 2020, 09:11
by Kwacky
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fran ... SKBN1ZI0RN" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

JP Morgan are starting to relocate from London.

Re: Brexit thread

Posted: 20 Jan 2020, 09:19
by StMarks
Kwacky wrote:There should be a lot less uncertainty but our government doesn't seem to know what is doing or what a post Brexit UK will look like.
Perhaps that's because "brexit" isn't any specific thing.? - The term means so many different things to people with differing views, and most of those wishes will not forethcoming as a result. In fact many desires behind the leave voters may actually become far less unachievable. ?
Oh the irony.!

Re: Brexit thread

Posted: 20 Jan 2020, 09:24
by Kwacky
But we're constantly told that leave voters knew exactly what they were voting for.

But I agree. Most of them won't get what they want. But they'll continue to blame the EU for it.

To be frank what the public thinks Brexit is should be is a side issue. The government should have formulated a clear plan years ago. An outline should have been laid out before evoking A50

Re: Brexit thread

Posted: 20 Jan 2020, 09:57
by duke63
Brexit means job losses as far as I can see.
A lot of job losses.

Re: Brexit thread

Posted: 20 Jan 2020, 10:01
by StMarks
Kwacky wrote:...... The government should have formulated a clear plan years ago. An outline should have been laid out before evoking A50
(wait) However if "brexit" were to have been defined, would there not have been an increased possibility that "the public" would have be made aware that it was not what they thought they were voting for.?
The fact that we are dismantling the legislation & infrastructure that we have benefited so much from over the last decades, in favour of handing social controls to home grown scammers, suggests that they achieved all they could have hoped.?
duke63 wrote:Brexit means job losses as far as I can see.
A lot of job losses.
I expect that the ensuing recession will be blamed on everything & everyone except those responsible for bringing it down on us.?

Re: Brexit thread

Posted: 20 Jan 2020, 10:05
by Monty
Kwacky wrote:To be frank what the public thinks Brexit is should be is a side issue. The government should have formulated a clear plan years ago. An outline should have been laid out before evoking A50
An outline for BREXIT should have been laid out before we had a **** vote!

Re: Brexit thread

Posted: 20 Jan 2020, 10:16
by Kwacky
It was. More money for the NHS, freedom from the shackles of the EU Nazis and the easiest trade deals in history.