1299 Panigale Ongoing Review
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Re: 1299 Panigale Ongoing Review
Ahh, I missed that bit. Having not ridden a 1299, my preconception of the suspension is that it is already miles better than my ZX6R stock stuff thus good enough to not get the top notch stuff for now.
I'd like to say I agree with you but having no experience of race suspension makes it impossible for me to do so
I'd like to say I agree with you but having no experience of race suspension makes it impossible for me to do so
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Re: 1299 Panigale Ongoing Review
Race suspension is probably the wrong description it's better described as goods quality suspension that removes manufacturer limitations and short comings.
For example if I get an aftermarket shock it will be for fast road riding not racing.
Do I need it ? no probably not. Will it me make me any quicker ? possibly. Will it make me enjoy my riding and ownership more yes.
Just because the panigale is seen as top draw Cav don't be fooled into thinking the suspension is any better than a zx6r. It's built to a budget and they know its likely to be junked anyway.
Each to their own but I would rather spend my money on suspension improvements than brake levers, anodized trinkets, brake guards and billet reservoir pot or exhausts. Nothing wrong with that but my personal prefernce is always to spend money on decent suspensiom first.
For example if I get an aftermarket shock it will be for fast road riding not racing.
Do I need it ? no probably not. Will it me make me any quicker ? possibly. Will it make me enjoy my riding and ownership more yes.
Just because the panigale is seen as top draw Cav don't be fooled into thinking the suspension is any better than a zx6r. It's built to a budget and they know its likely to be junked anyway.
Each to their own but I would rather spend my money on suspension improvements than brake levers, anodized trinkets, brake guards and billet reservoir pot or exhausts. Nothing wrong with that but my personal prefernce is always to spend money on decent suspensiom first.
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Re: 1299 Panigale Ongoing Review
Blade wrote:...... if I get an aftermarket shock it will be for fast road riding not racing........
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Re: 1299 Panigale Ongoing Review
From my limited experience better suspension just equals less compromise. My zx6 shock is fine 80% of the time, the other 20% it's bouncing me out of the seat!
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Re: 1299 Panigale Ongoing Review
Fwiw I'm with you Blade, function over form every time.
Generally speaking, bikes are made by manufacturers with a pillion facility, that means the suspension needs to be be safe with 2 reasonable sized adults on it, the spring rate for that is way over what a single rider wants on the road, add in the cheap damping and you get suspension that can ping you out of the seat rather than absorb the bump properly.
If you buy a decent shock with good damping, fitted with a good quality spring - correct for your weight, get that set up properly, it will make a very discernible difference to 1, how a bike handles if you ride reasonably quickly, and 2, the comfort and stability of the bike at speed.
P.S. This is only my opinion gained from a little experience btw, nothing more.
Generally speaking, bikes are made by manufacturers with a pillion facility, that means the suspension needs to be be safe with 2 reasonable sized adults on it, the spring rate for that is way over what a single rider wants on the road, add in the cheap damping and you get suspension that can ping you out of the seat rather than absorb the bump properly.
If you buy a decent shock with good damping, fitted with a good quality spring - correct for your weight, get that set up properly, it will make a very discernible difference to 1, how a bike handles if you ride reasonably quickly, and 2, the comfort and stability of the bike at speed.
P.S. This is only my opinion gained from a little experience btw, nothing more.
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Re: 1299 Panigale Ongoing Review
Its always a compromise Monty. There is no perfect set up for all conditions. As you say it's just about reducing the amount of compromise and finding the improvememts that will give you more confidence to go quicker or have more control.
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Re: 1299 Panigale Ongoing Review
If you'd also seen him carve round a racetrack, you would know how disingenuous his final paragraph was though mate.Blade wrote:Great explanation Deegee
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Re: 1299 Panigale Ongoing Review
Haha. One of the better roads in the area but also my route into the Peaks for more twisties.
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Re: 1299 Panigale Ongoing Review
What's all the water under it on what seems to be a dry day? Do you stop and do a mid ride wash?
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Re: 1299 Panigale Ongoing Review
I completely agree with you - I've just never had the spare cash to do itBlade wrote:Each to their own but I would rather spend my money on suspension improvements than brake levers, anodized trinkets, brake guards and billet reservoir pot or exhausts. Nothing wrong with that but my personal prefernce is always to spend money on decent suspensiom first.
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Re: 1299 Panigale Ongoing Review
My internet here is shockingly bad so it's taken a little while to read this thread, unsure if this will post but great thread. Loving the bike Blade. Love these on going reviews. Nice pics as well. Keep it going
Deegee lovely explanation of the shocks, lile Cav I've never had the spare cash for upgrading bits like that but your explanation is very clear
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Deegee lovely explanation of the shocks, lile Cav I've never had the spare cash for upgrading bits like that but your explanation is very clear
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Re: 1299 Panigale Ongoing Review
Its FAR to clean. Dirty Ducatis RULE :-P
Very nice bike and a complete monster when you open it up.
Very nice bike and a complete monster when you open it up.
"80mph" sorry officer I possibly could not have done that I'm no Valentino Rossi.
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Re: 1299 Panigale Ongoing Review
Toilet stopkiwikrasher wrote:What's all the water under it on what seems to be a dry day? Do you stop and do a mid ride wash?
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Re: 1299 Panigale Ongoing Review
Been tinkering changed the shock linkage from progressive to flat. Hope to test tomorrow.