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Re: Post referendum
Posted: 04 Jul 2016, 13:35
by Kwacky
A law firm has challenged the Government not to take any further steps with Article 50 until the matter has been put before the House of Commons.
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Re: Post referendum
Posted: 04 Jul 2016, 14:26
by Blade
This is turning into a debacle.
What was the point of a national referendum and all its expense if we're not going to accept the outcome.
Ridiculous imo.
Re: Post referendum
Posted: 04 Jul 2016, 14:28
by Monty
You didn't read it, did you?
Re: Post referendum
Posted: 04 Jul 2016, 14:57
by C00kiemonster
"It has come as a shock to many that the referendum result itself is not legally binding in UK law and it alone does not trigger the UK's departure from the EU."
I lost count of the amount of times the word
indicative was used during the campaign - it was an indication.
This all sounds very good to me as i doubt parliament would vote for it
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Re: Post referendum
Posted: 04 Jul 2016, 15:07
by Kwacky
Could you imagine the outrage through if MPs blocked the decision?
Re: Post referendum
Posted: 04 Jul 2016, 15:07
by Blade
Monty wrote:You didn't read it, did you?
Yes I did thanks. I just think the country has voted so the government should act upon the result and now put in place the correct legal process to do such.
Re: Post referendum
Posted: 04 Jul 2016, 15:16
by Monty
Blade wrote:Monty wrote:You didn't read it, did you?
Yes I did thanks. I just think the country has voted so the government should act upon the result and now put in place the correct legal process to do such.
I'm confused, I thought you said
Blade wrote:This is turning into a debacle.
What was the point of a national referendum and all its expense if we're not going to accept the outcome.
Ridiculous imo.
Re: Post referendum
Posted: 04 Jul 2016, 15:23
by Kwacky
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... back-state" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That's a really good read. Basically what it argues is that the Tories won't go back on the decision to leave the EU, because they can use the result in their favour. If we're out of the EU then we can ignore a lot of what the common man would call the "red tape" of business. To you and me that means workers rights, ethical trading, environmental issues.
The Conservative Party has a free hand to rewrite the way we do business and a free hand to support those who run businesses. For instance the announced reduction in corporation tax from 20% to 15% means that there's going to be a shortfall in government income. Guess who'll bear the brunt?
Re: Post referendum
Posted: 04 Jul 2016, 15:30
by C00kiemonster
Kwacky wrote:Could you imagine the outrage through if MPs blocked the decision?
Not from me
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If you imagine all the scots, NI and london MP's voting remain plus any others that do follow their conscience then it could be remain
Farcical from start to end. they didn't even think the legality of the referendum and the process after it internally, let alone actually leaving. Useless.
I'd sack the lot of them and have a revolution.
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Re: Post referendum
Posted: 04 Jul 2016, 15:35
by Blade
Monty I come on here for bike chit chat mainly although rather stupidly have found myself getting sucked into politics mainly as the topic on here has got very one sided regards leaving the EU. Which is ironic really as the TS poll had more people out than in so I thought it worthwhile adding some balance to the discussion to help represent everyone's opinion on TS.
Im not going to argue over every little issue or political issues like my life depended on it so I'll bow out gracefully thank you. Life is too short.
Re: Post referendum
Posted: 04 Jul 2016, 15:43
by Monty
Re: Post referendum
Posted: 04 Jul 2016, 15:44
by C00kiemonster
At least I agree with some of your politics for now - its all good
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Re: Post referendum
Posted: 04 Jul 2016, 15:47
by Monty
C00kiemonster wrote:
At least I agree with some of your politics for now - its all good
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You wouldn't have said that 9 years ago, so I'll take that as progress
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Re: Post referendum
Posted: 04 Jul 2016, 15:49
by C00kiemonster
Monty wrote:C00kiemonster wrote:
At least I agree with some of your politics for now - its all good
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/emoticon-0100-smile.gif)
You wouldn't have said that 9 years ago, so I'll take that as progress
![Covered Laugh (giggle)](./images/smilies/emoticon-0136-giggle.gif)
I'll agree with anyone who keeps me in the EU presently so i'm at my weakest
9 years - bloody hell.
Re: Post referendum
Posted: 04 Jul 2016, 16:48
by duke63
I wonder if the EU will offer Britons the opportunity to apply for an EU passport? If they do i wonder how many Britons would take it up to continue receiving the benefits EU membership offers them?
Re: Post referendum
Posted: 04 Jul 2016, 16:51
by duke63
It worries me how much I agree with Monty these days? Is there anyone running for the Tory leadership offering a cure for this 'disease' ?
Re: Post referendum
Posted: 04 Jul 2016, 16:55
by Kwacky
Germany have said that they will offer dual citizenship to those Brits working in Germany who want to remain.
Re: Post referendum
Posted: 04 Jul 2016, 17:17
by Monty
duke63 wrote:It worries me how much I agree with Monty these days? Is there anyone running for the Tory leadership offering a cure for this 'disease' ?
MWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! My work here is done!
Andrea Leadsom looks to be the least likely to scull f@ck you with a rusty axe. All of them will be a major shift to the right and not good news for 99% of the country.
But please God don't let it be Gove or May!
Re: Post referendum
Posted: 04 Jul 2016, 17:19
by C00kiemonster
Kwacky wrote:Germany have said that they will offer dual citizenship to those Brits working in Germany who want to remain.
If France did that I'd snap their hand off frankly.
Re: Post referendum
Posted: 04 Jul 2016, 19:14
by duke63
If someone offered me EU citizenship and the benefits that go with it, i would take it too.
Not that i am in a position to be offered it mind.