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Hydrogen kwak

Posted: 17 Dec 2023, 15:53
by Kwacky
https://www.webbikeworld.com/kawasaki-s ... orts-bike/

I hope it's better looking than this.

Re: Hydrogen kwak

Posted: 17 Dec 2023, 16:14
by StMarks
Kwacky wrote: 17 Dec 2023, 15:53 https://www.webbikeworld.com/kawasaki-s ... orts-bike/

I hope it's better looking than this.
HySE... Is that named after the phonetic spelling of the sound you will hear the first time you lowside on one, and moments before the biggest bang you'll never hear again.?

I do like the concept of Hydrogen fuel, but if that's what it's going to be in real life -I'm out.!

Re: Hydrogen kwak

Posted: 17 Dec 2023, 16:44
by D6Nutz
Looks like a Tonka toy...

I don't understand why anything that is of alternative fuel has to have this over futuristic styling.. just make it look like a ninja h2 and add some logos or colour mods too make it known it's hydrogen.

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Re: Hydrogen kwak

Posted: 17 Dec 2023, 18:02
by duke63
Hydrogen has significant issues to overcome to be seen as a viable fuel, not least the fuel tank needs to be extremely strong due to the pressure required and thus very heavy.

Production of hydrogen also uses lots of energy in the first place.

Re: Hydrogen kwak

Posted: 19 Dec 2023, 16:00
by D41
Damn, that's fugly.

Re: Hydrogen kwak

Posted: 20 Dec 2023, 02:22
by Stonesie
Since most hydrogen comes from Methane it's still a fossil fuel, blue hydrogen is cheap and is steam reformed methane.
As it sounds, they strip the carbon from the methane (CH4) with steam, and the carbon is then released with that steam. Really not a clean fuel is it... Although they are working on carbon capture technologies they're not there yet.

From here https://www.aramco.com/en/about-us/our- ... sDEALw_wcB
Currently, the majority of the world’s industrial hydrogen is derived from natural gas (methane) and is used for fertilizers, as well as in the iron, steel, and space industries. However, the traditional method of extracting hydrogen from natural gas also creates around 10 tonnes of CO2 for every tonne of hydrogen produced. Therefore, we needed to find a way to produce it that is less carbon intensive.

Green hydrogen from electrolysis is nearly 10x the cost but can be a true carbon free fuel if renewables provide the power.

Then they need to solve the problems with long term storage and the seepage of the hydrogen through metals making them brittle, even the rocket industry hasn't solved that one yet.

You know on the service schedule when it calls for replacement fuel lines and nobody ever changes them? On a hydrogen bike that's a more serious thing, and probably includes the tanks.