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Clearly the biker's fault

Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 10:46
by Kwacky
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liv ... r-13627727" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A woman drives head on into the path of a motorbike, puts him in a coma and leaves him with life changes injuries.

Her punishment?

A driver awareness course.

Re: Clearly the biker's fault

Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 12:14
by rocket
This is were is doesn't add up. I would not want to see her crucified as its a mistake we all make them. However 8 months for being a bit of a knob and not hurting anyone..... driving into someone a course.

Re: Clearly the biker's fault

Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 12:46
by D41
And justice for all.....

Probably other things going here that led the court to make this choice. I'm sure the legal-eagles know what they're doing.

Re: Clearly the biker's fault

Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 13:11
by Kwacky
It didn't get to court

Re: Clearly the biker's fault

Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 13:19
by D6Nutz
My god that's horrific reading. Being trapped in the fence by the side of the road for an hour because the couldn't work out how to free him??? ERM, bolt cutters or was nobody qualified to use them. (facepalm)

He's lucky to alive by the sound of it.

Re: Clearly the biker's fault

Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 14:41
by StMarks
D6Nutz wrote:My god that's horrific reading. Being trapped in the fence by the side of the road for an hour because the couldn't work out how to free him??? ERM, bolt cutters or was nobody qualified to use them. (facepalm)

He's lucky to alive by the sound of it.
Maybe they didn't want to use croppers on the grounds that the cables may have been live high voltage ones?

He sounds to be pretty mashed up poor lad, it will be interesting to learn what (logic/pressure) has been applied to enable her to avoid facing any charges whatsoever.

Re: Clearly the biker's fault

Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 15:13
by Rossgo
Surely it's careless driving for causing such a moment regardless of mistake or not. You should only be driving if you are 100% accountable for any incidents that happen while under your control. Think this feels more like 'these things happen oh well' to me.

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Re: Clearly the biker's fault

Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 15:15
by Kwacky
It should be causing serious injury by careless driving. I can't see why she's not been done.

Re: Clearly the biker's fault

Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 15:23
by Cavetroll87
my guess is she burst into tears and the copper would say something like, she was compliant with the investigation, clearly upset and he feels she has learnt her lesson enough what with her being relatively young......

the gobbie in the bushes probably didn't hurt either

Re: Clearly the biker's fault

Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 15:24
by Rossgo
This is what makes me angry in this country, like Rocket has said, 8 months inside for a stupid ride out and a sit in a classroom for a person who now will still get pains for the rest of his life isn't the same

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Re: Clearly the biker's fault

Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 15:33
by D41
You're not really angry about it though, are you??

Be honest .....

Re: Clearly the biker's fault

Posted: 21 Sep 2017, 22:24
by duke63
Trouble is justice isn't universal.

A CPS decision made in one county may differ from another based purely on the evidence presented by the police. At least that is my understanding of it.

Re: Clearly the biker's fault

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 06:58
by D41
No system is perfect...it can't be....but overall the justice system in the UK is one of the best in The World. There will always be aberrations...it's why they stand out & receive extra press.
There's a fine line between crime suppression & civic oppression.....the "scales of justice" or whatever.

/Slides a fresh mag. into a weapon.....

Re: Clearly the biker's fault

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 11:09
by Cavetroll87
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/st ... spartandhp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

another one, does a runner from police, has a smash, ok very lengthy ban but only 16 weeks prison compared to the 8 month wheelie guy!

Re: Clearly the biker's fault

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 11:34
by Jack
16 weeks suspended - f*ck all if he keeps out of trouble for the next 12 months , with 5 passengers in the car all of them injured albeit only minor .

Re: Clearly the biker's fault

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 13:18
by T.C.
Like said, it all comes down to the evidence available and how much stomach the CPS have got to fight the cause. My 35+ years experience of dealing with the CPS does not do them any favourse, and I can recount numerous cases where I was prepared to give a section 1 "Death by Dangerous driving" a run for its money and let a jury decide, but CPS chose to plea bargain and settle for a section 3 careless driving.

But then the case below also puts it into perspective.

I have been involved in cases and been responsible for having drivers disqualified for 3, 5 and 10 years, but never 80 years which must be some sort of record.

He will be able to apply for his licence back after 40 years. Maybe more courts should follow this lead.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/st ... ar-AAskQny" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Clearly the biker's fault

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 13:21
by Kwacky
But how effect is a ban? It just means he'll be driving without insurance.

Re: Clearly the biker's fault

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 16:20
by T.C.
An error and correction has now been pubished. It was just a 2 year ban with extended re-test

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma ... r-41362923" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Clearly the biker's fault

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 16:35
by StMarks
T.C. wrote:An error and correction has now been pubished. It was just a 2 year ban with extended re-test

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma ... r-41362923" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That's far more plausible isn't it.?
After all a two year ban is less than the show off on the motorbike.