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Triumph official moto2 engine supplier from 2019

Posted: 03 Jun 2017, 12:49
by Blade
Fantastic to see a British company at the heart of the Motogp paddock.

From 2019 Triumph will be he sole engine supplier to Moto2 championship with a 765cc triple.

Well done Triumph (lol)

http://m.crash.net/motogp/news/251068/1 ... plier.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Triumph official moto2 engine supplier from 2019

Posted: 03 Jun 2017, 12:54
by duke63
Must mean a new Daytona 765 is coming then.

Re: Triumph official moto2 engine supplier from 2019

Posted: 03 Jun 2017, 13:49
by Kwacky
duke63 wrote:Must mean a new Daytona 765 is coming then.

May I refer the Honourable Gentleman to his earlier post?

http://www.tankslap.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5891" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Triumph official moto2 engine supplier from 2019

Posted: 03 Jun 2017, 13:51
by Kwacky
I might go to a MotoGP race just to hear the triples on full chat.

Re: Triumph official moto2 engine supplier from 2019

Posted: 03 Jun 2017, 14:27
by D41
Sole engine supplier?? Does that mean they're sending them just one engine??

Re: Triumph official moto2 engine supplier from 2019

Posted: 03 Jun 2017, 20:35
by duke63
Kwacky wrote:
duke63 wrote:Must mean a new Daytona 765 is coming then.

May I refer the Honourable Gentleman to his earlier post?

http://www.tankslap.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5891" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Yeh but to go to all the trouble and then not sell a road bike equivalent?

Re: Triumph official moto2 engine supplier from 2019

Posted: 03 Jun 2017, 21:06
by Kwacky
They're only selling an engine. It's based on the 675 engine and it's an engine they're using for the new Street Triple. No design costs or new tooling.

Re: Triumph official moto2 engine supplier from 2019

Posted: 03 Jun 2017, 23:29
by Jack
The race specification Triumph 765cc Moto2™ engine, based on the powerplant that fuels the 2017 Triumph Street Triple RS, has been developed further to allow the engine to breathe more freely and rev harder than the production bike; increasing overall performance. Other changes have been made specifically to adapt the engine for race use, including these modifications:

Modified cylinder head with revised inlet and exhaust ports for optimised gas flow
Titanium valves and stiffer valve springs for increased rpm
Low output race kit alternator for reduced inertia
Taller 1st gear ratio
Tuneable race developed slipper clutch
Specific race ECU; which will be developed with Magneti Marelli
Revised engine covers for reduced width
Different sump to allow for improved header run

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDT8y0WEfxo[/video]

that sounds quite nice , I heard it'll be pushing out 140 bhp not seen power figures confirmed yet though .

Re: Triumph official moto2 engine supplier from 2019

Posted: 05 Jun 2017, 12:15
by Perkles
What bhp do they put out ?

Re: Triumph official moto2 engine supplier from 2019

Posted: 05 Jun 2017, 12:26
by Kwacky
the new 765 Street Triple RS throws out peak 125bhp

Re: Triumph official moto2 engine supplier from 2019

Posted: 05 Jun 2017, 12:30
by Cav
I'd imagine they'd have to produce similar power to the current Moto2 engine which is 140bhp I believe..

Surely the extra capacity could push 150bhp?

Re: Triumph official moto2 engine supplier from 2019

Posted: 05 Jun 2017, 12:43
by Kwacky
But it's a triple so the power drops off. 140 bhp is doable.

Re: Triumph official moto2 engine supplier from 2019

Posted: 05 Jun 2017, 15:11
by Jack
Perkles wrote:What bhp do they put out ?
I've yet to see it confirmed but 140 ponies and 80 torques and 13,500 rpm is what the rumour mill is saying

Re: Triumph official moto2 engine supplier from 2019

Posted: 06 Jun 2017, 11:05
by Perkles
140 in a screaming triple should be sweet,I wonder how many get blown up each year

Re: Triumph official moto2 engine supplier from 2019

Posted: 06 Jun 2017, 11:14
by Kwacky
The CBR600 engine has been very reliable. But Honda have produced thousands of them since 2004 so they've got a lot of hours with them. I don't think that engine has changed since they put it in the 2005 cbr600rr.

Re: Triumph official moto2 engine supplier from 2019

Posted: 06 Jun 2017, 11:56
by Cav
In '13 they changed something but I believe that may have been the exhaust for emissions?

The stock 600rr powertrain is so down on power compared with Yamaha and Kawasaki. It's no more reliable than the Kwack and Yam either - although you may beg to differ haha.

What are Honda doing about a "supersport" bike then? Are they going to drop any bike completely or find a replacement that has superchargers or 800ccs?

Re: Triumph official moto2 engine supplier from 2019

Posted: 06 Jun 2017, 12:04
by Kwacky
It's not just my experience with the zx6r. The racing forums are full of tales of the 09-12 engines going pop. A few racers were failing their engines on purpose so they could swap them out. That's why the engines were so expensive, because of the massive demand for them.

Even the salesman at Kwak Birmingham told me about the weakness in the bottom end. Kwak changed a few parts in the 2013 engine to deal with it.

Re: Triumph official moto2 engine supplier from 2019

Posted: 21 Jun 2017, 21:04
by Kwacky
http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2017/06 ... 019/230564" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Triumph official moto2 engine supplier from 2019

Posted: 23 Nov 2018, 12:13
by Kwacky
They're struggling to start the engines on the Moto2 bikes. The old rollers aren't strong enough so they've having to bump them, which is difficult due to the longer stroke of the triple

Re: Triumph official moto2 engine supplier from 2019

Posted: 23 Nov 2018, 12:31
by Cav
Haha.. brilliant !!

Do you know if Moto2 testing is covered by BT Sport?