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Crash at cadwell

Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 21:03
by markrsvr15
Crash at cadwell following a bloke trying to get round him for abit left me down straights but holding us up in corners abit not bothered only a track day.
But i thought he was going to accerate I was going to take my normal line into the corner with more speed get him round Chris curves but that didn't happen

[video]https://youtu.be/tLuMA7EzHbw[/video]

Ps sorry for language but quite funny :)

Re: Crash at cadwell

Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 21:09
by Perkles
Eeeek glad your ok,he did seem to slow right up.did it catch you unawares

Re: Crash at cadwell

Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 21:16
by markrsvr15
Yeah I followed him for abit I just didn't expect it i normally don't brake roll of throttle abit though there. I was accelerating then thought oh s#%t tried go go round outside of him moved left abit hit My front brake completely nothing I could do really.

He never fell off anyway haha

Re: Crash at cadwell

Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 21:28
by Kwacky
He was 50 pencing those corners.

How's your bike?

Re: Crash at cadwell

Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 21:33
by markrsvr15
Just fairings mate nothing really bad it was already scratched on that side unfortunately.

Taped nose cones up pulled grass off it went back out had to sort calipers out well pads etc but other than that ok Cheers mate

Re: Crash at cadwell

Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 21:36
by Kwacky
Well if you're going to crash that's the sort you want. Battle scars on a bike look good as well.

Re: Crash at cadwell

Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 21:41
by markrsvr15
Yes definitely mate cheers.

Twice in four trackdays now though having a bad year this year don't know why but I don't think that time was my fault to be honest what do you guys think am not bothered honestly mayest mate said it was my fault but he not a trackday person

Re: Crash at cadwell

Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 22:16
by Kwacky
Hard to call. You're overtaking so it's up to you to make sure you can, but you've gone wide when he's set up for the corner, then he drifts over again. Don't think you can predict that.

Re: Crash at cadwell

Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 22:47
by markrsvr15
I thought that but I always take a wide line into there as on a v twin and need the corner speed on the couners I followed him on it looked as if he was ok into couners.

But i guess your right

Re: Crash at cadwell

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 07:18
by Blade
Mark very glad your ok and hope the bike is not badly damaged.

If you want an honest opinion for me I agree with Kwacky it would be your responsibility to ensure you had enough room to pass safely. The other rider may not have been aware of your presence and at the end of the day it's a trackday not racing. It's just a bit of fun so for me on a TD a overtake should give plenty of space to both riders and be safe. Just my opinion for what it's worth and definitely not a dig, plus very glad your ok.

If it was me and I was held up I would usually ride through pit lane to position myself in a different position on track relative to other riders and hopefully in more space to get a clean lap.

Hope your well and take care.

Re: Crash at cadwell

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 07:31
by StMarks
Pleased to hear that you're largely ok Mark. Fwiw my crash ratio is the same this year.

Perhaps you need to invest in one of these mate.:

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Re: Crash at cadwell

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 09:58
by DaytonAndy
Another here with a 50% crash ratio this year. Think I'd agree with the consensus above. Whilst I don't think you really did a lot wrong it does look like you've committed to the overtake slightly before he's committed to his line and corner which is always going to be a risk. I'd also say that after following him for a while you can see his lines are a bit wayward so you'd have to expect him to do the unexpected? FWIW you looked pretty good round the rest of the lap! Glad you made it out relatively ok and got out again. Another FWIW and I'm no riding God but I'd much rather make an overtake on the brakes long before the corner or hang back a little to get a better drive out and overtake on or after corner exit. Or as Blade says run straight through the pits and put yourself on a different part of the track. It does look very narrow there and difficult to overtake.

Re: Crash at cadwell

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 10:21
by Blade
I got the run through pits idea from you Andy (lol) very good tip imo (y)

Re: Crash at cadwell

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 10:28
by Monty
Blade wrote:I got the run through pits idea from you Andy (lol) very good tip imo (y)
Blade wrote:
Monty wrote:Cracking write up mate. When I get stuck in a big bunch or group I run through the pits and pop out in a different place. It takes less than a minute of the session, but can save a load of frustration.
That is such a great idea Monty, I will remember that, nice one mate (y)
(hi)

Re: Crash at cadwell

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 10:46
by DaytonAndy
Don't take my one good idea away from me ;(

Re: Crash at cadwell

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 13:35
by markrsvr15
Good idea I will remember that mate definitely i will do that next time :D

And yeah your probably right i should not expect anyone to do what I think might happen

Re: Crash at cadwell

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 22:37
by markrsvr15
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Some more footage of cadwell went in inters but there was three or four that should have been up a group probably been back of fast but better than been fast inter

Tried so e new tyres also hated them going back to old tyres definitely these were abit to hard going into slow couners wasn't very nice didn't feel comfortable what so ever

Re: Crash at cadwell

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 23:00
by Kwacky
Which tyres?

Re: Crash at cadwell

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 23:05
by markrsvr15
Dunlop alpha 13 z mate didn't like them

Re: Crash at cadwell

Posted: 24 Jun 2016, 23:26
by StMarks
markrsvr15 wrote:Some more footage of cadwell went in inters but there was three or four that should have been up a group probably been back of fast but better than been fast inter
There's one of those "three or four" posting that video IMHO mate. Cracking pace, especially if you didn't get on with the new tyres.
Some very courteous overtakes too. (clap)