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Re: Paris

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 14:02
by Kwacky
I hope mini-Blade is ok.

Re: Paris

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 14:03
by Kwacky
The irony is that the current government have cut funds to the NHS which leaves the NHS computer systems vulnerable.

Re: Paris

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 14:15
by Rossgo
Hope your son is ok Blade

Re: Paris

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 16:41
by C00kiemonster
Hope little blade is ok :)

Re: Paris

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 16:44
by Roadrace
Kwacky wrote:The irony is that the current government have cut funds to the NHS which leaves the NHS computer systems vulnerable.
Not necessarily the case. Many NHS trusts have outsourced patient throughput, clinical access solutions etc. to private specialist companies. I work for one of them....and security is always at the top of our agenda.

Re: Paris

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 16:53
by Kwacky
Wasn't there an issue with the various systems failing to talk to each other? That's often open to exploit.

Re: Paris

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 18:14
by Blade
Thanks all for the comments about my lad.

It was blood tests today and hopefully they will come back clear. I don't even want to talk about if they don't as I'm pretty worried tbh.

Re: Paris

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 18:38
by Monty
Blade wrote:Thanks all for the comments about my lad.

It was blood tests today and hopefully they will come back clear. I don't even want to talk about if they don't as I'm pretty worried tbh.
With you there buddy, I've had a few nights in hospital with my 3 year old over the last few months it's fecking terrifying!

Hope everything is ok

Re: Paris

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 18:45
by Monty
I'm an anti war pacifist, but even I agree now it's time to wipe out ISIS through what ever means possible. The status quo is no longer tenable.

My only caveat is it must be UN led and include China, India, Russia, Iran, Israel etc

Re: Paris

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 19:25
by Kwacky
There's no way Israel can get involved.

Re: Paris

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 19:30
by Monty
They can hold the coats

Re: Paris

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 19:54
by Kwacky
They're good at walls, perhaps they can ringfence the area and leave them all to it?

Re: Paris

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 19:59
by Monty
Not a bad idea, give them 5 years and they'll be building settlements in Raqqa

Re: Paris

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 21:34
by Blade
Western Governments need to been seen to be taking active action to make their people feel save going about their daily buisness and living in their homes and communities.

If they don't will we see western paramilitary groups formed to fighter ISIS and defend our communities. May seem far fetched but the Ulster Defence Assicoation numbered 40,000 active members at its peak in the troubles and were primarily engaged in fighting the IRA.

Not suggesting this is the right course of action but suggesting it is a possible outcome if things become more intense and governments are not seen as being effect in protecting their people.

Re: Paris

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 21:34
by Kwacky
an ambulance packed full of explosives has been found in a Hannover football stadium which was hosting an international game

Re: Paris

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 21:38
by Blade
I had heard a game was called off but that is horrific, thank god the attack was stopped.

Was Paris the start of a prolonged and intense campaign against the west?

Re: Paris

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 21:41
by Binno
Blade wrote:Western Governments need to been seen to be taking active action to make their people feel save going about their daily buisness and living in their homes and communities.

If they don't will we see western paramilitary groups formed to fighter ISIS and defend our communities. May seem far fetched but the Ulster Defence Assicoation numbered 40,000 active members at its peak in the troubles and were primarily engaged in fighting the IRA.

Not suggesting this is the right course of action but suggesting it is a possible outcome if things become more intense and governments are not seen as being effect in protecting their people.



You've hit the nail on the head there. If it's seen to be that those in charge can't look after people then people tend to look after themselves . That comes with a whole host of other problematic stuff as it takes a well determined and organised set of people to carry it out . Otherwise it's just a mob. I for one would not hesitate to look after mine. I'd even look after all yours too......even if some of you maybe peaceniks :)

Re: Paris

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 21:45
by Kwacky
There are already paramilitary groups out there fighting ISIS.

Sadly one of the best groups is made up of Kurds, which Turkey doesn't like, so Turkey is bombing the Kurds which helps ISIS.

Confused yet?

Re: Paris

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 21:46
by Blade
I hope it never comes to it Binno. But as you say this could happen if people feel no alternative means of keeping there's safe. I also imagine there would be a number of people with the nessecary skills and financical backing will to act this way if pushed far enough.

Re: Paris

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 21:48
by Blade
Kwacky wrote:There are already paramilitary groups out there fighting ISIS.

Sadly one of the best groups is made up of Kurds, which Turkey doesn't like, so Turkey is bombing the Kurds which helps ISIS.

Confused yet?
Yes it's a complex subject and one I could easily be confused with tbh as I'm not that we'll informed or read in all honesty.

I was thinking more westerns paramilitary groups as in French, Dutch, German, British nationals etc...