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Re: Climate change

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 16:25
by duke63
We are the problem. But if we don’t make changes our kids will live in a shit world.

I am making changes to my lifestyle.

Its a start.

If we don’t, changes will be forced on us that will have a significant impact on our lives and those changes might be made by Mother Nature, not a politician.

Re: Climate change

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 17:49
by Kwacky
All of my posts are on parchment.

Re: Climate change

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 17:55
by duke63
Yeh but your in the legal profession. They all do that there.

Re: Climate change

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 18:46
by StMarks
duke63 wrote:Yeh but your in the legal profession. They all do that there.
In triplicate, with a complete bundle also sent to the opposing legal team ( to further compound the waste). ? (giggle)

Single use plastics.
If in doubt, throw it out.
Wholesale disposal of unused medications.
Constantly lit & temperature controlled areas
Etc etc etc...

Re: Climate change

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 18:56
by duke63
It’s astonishing the number of glass fronted offices where the lights are on all the time even when no one is around.

Re: Climate change

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 19:58
by D6Nutz
duke63 wrote:It’s astonishing the number of glass fronted offices where the lights are on all the time even when no one is around.
Most newer offices have presence detectors now though, it then comes down to the company/maintenance teams to set the timeout.

A lot of large companies are slowly starting to become more eco-friendly. Small steps, but my current client is switching to led lighting where possible, they also mentioned a couple of other things that I can't remember.

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Re: Climate change

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 20:04
by Kwacky
We've just had those led detection lights fitted at work.

And all of our documents are electronic. We file and serve everything online where were can.

Re: Climate change

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 20:05
by StMarks
duke63 wrote:It’s astonishing the number of glass fronted offices where the lights are on all the time even when no one is around.
Computerised lighting control, with presence detector switches, could save them £££ (as well as the reductions in environmental impacts).
However investing the capital in such conversions would require the approval of the financial controllers. < They will be accountants of course, hence the lights are all on 24/7. ;)

Re: Climate change

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 20:43
by D41
In commercial offices, lighting is the least of the their worries when it comes to using electricity.
HVAC systems, computers, printers, copiers, etc., all use a massive amount of electricity compared to what it takes to keep a place lit up.

Re: Climate change

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 20:55
by duke63
D41 wrote:In commercial offices, lighting is the least of the their worries when it comes to using electricity.
HVAC systems, computers, printers, copiers, etc., all use a massive amount of electricity compared to what it takes to keep a place lit up.

Its wasted energy, that is the point.

Using precious energy that we don't need to. Imagine if every office in the world stopped doing it?

Re: Climate change

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 21:47
by D41
Yup, and realistically that, or anything close to that, is just not going to happen.
Nor is it going to make any real difference to the climate change issue, because for every energy-saving item being plugged-in in the developed world, someone else is plugging in an energy-sapping dinosaur-bulb in Nepal, or Chile, or some other backwater.

Re: Climate change

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 22:35
by duke63
I give up.

Humans have become so selfish. You have kids, do you not? Do you not care about what world they will grow up in.

Re: Climate change

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 22:39
by D6Nutz
I disagree with D41.

Change is happening, and those changes will make a difference. It's just the wind of change is very slow.

Good things have happened this week, a major supermarket has committed to reducing single use plastic on multi packs. It's not a revolution, but it's a start.

If we all just "make a start" overall it's a huge impact.

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Re: Climate change

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 22:58
by D41
duke63 wrote:I give up.

Humans have become so selfish. You have kids, do you not? Do you not care about what world they will grow up in.
Not in the context that you're talking about. Which doesn't mean that "I don't care," rather than you raise them, prepare them for the world, and then they prepare the world for themselves.
Anyway, they're adults now, not really kids anymore.

Re: Climate change

Posted: 12 Feb 2020, 19:01
by duke63
I reckon we have ten years of burning BP and Shell's finest now. Make the most of it.

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Re: Climate change

Posted: 15 Feb 2020, 22:00
by duke63
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Re: Climate change

Posted: 17 Feb 2020, 21:38
by duke63
Police reporting a severe flood warning around Burton Upon Trent saying the river will burst its bank causing a threat to life.

I do think we are in the last chance saloon.

Re: Climate change

Posted: 17 Feb 2020, 21:44
by Kwacky
Is that a Portuguese bar?

Re: Climate change

Posted: 17 Feb 2020, 22:29
by duke63
Probably. Too much brandy talking. :D (beer)

It has been really nice here today. Quite warm, bordering on hot in the sun and out of the breeze.

Re: Climate change

Posted: 18 Feb 2020, 16:57
by Kwacky
I've just seen on twitter someone with an app powered hybrid hire car.

They've driven in the mountains in California.

No phone signal.

The car has shut down :D

A tow truck collected them to tow them 3 miles down the road where they could get enough signal to continue using the car.