ENGINE Problem - Help Needed

[Monty]

Bum tickling? That's it I'm not riding with you guys!

[Blade]

Your the chairman of the Derbyshire Gayers MCC what a ridiculous statement get a grip Monty

[Blade]

Not of bottom though

[Perkles]

Kawasakis are shit buy a Ducati quick

[Blade]

One question I'm still pondering why only when the engine is hot ?

[rocket]

One question I'm still pondering why only when the engine is hot ?

It did not it did it when the bike was cold in the garage last night. I guessing its faulty and got worse as we went on yesterday. Call the dealer and see what they say.

[Blade]

Nah only cut out when hot.

Last night in the garage the FI was already on as it had not reset. The trigger is when the bike is hot.

Will call stealer later. Cheers

[rocket]

Does it cut on side stand running when hot or More after you have ridden it been banked over in turns etc then come to a stop and it cuts.

[DaytonAndy]

Just seen this glad to see it seems you have it under control. If your bike is anything like mine, once the engine management light comes on, it will stay on for three cycles even if it's no longer detecting the fault.

[Blade]

Rang two dealers about the fault this morning explaining what had gone on and how code 31 was showing as the cause which is Vehicle Down Sensor Error.

Dealer No.1 - Can' fit me in for 2 weeks. But will book me in for an hours diagnostics at a charge of £60 to establish it is code 31 and then once the fault is confirmed they can book me in for another slot a few weeks later to do the work.

Dealer No.2 Said pop in anytime your passing or its convenient with you. We will plug into the laptop to establish the fault which will take a max of 10 minutes and is no charge. If it is the sensor they will then put a warranty claim in. Really helpful and friendly guy who was a pleasure to deal with. Explained it has a Quickshifter and a Power Commander installed and I have done the servicing myself and he said not a problem.

Can you guess which dealer I will be going too ?

[Perkles]

hope they sort it for you foc soon mate

[rocket]

name and shame

[Kwacky]

Is this all fixed now or is Blade still away?

[Blade]

Travelling home today. I have a few hours spare tomorrow so hopefully I can get it looked at then if not it's a few weeks before I'm available again.

[Blade]

I think the French Authorities are under alot of obvious extra pressure at the moment due to a high state of national alert because of terrorism but I do think they could do more to improve stadium security. There should be Police in the stadium as would be in any UK Premiership game.

[Blade]

Is this all fixed now or is Blade still away?

Update.

Popped into kawasaki last week who connected my bike to the factory diagnosis software which confirmed three off historical fault codes stored on the ECU all of them code 31 faulty vehicle down sensor.

The mechanic reckoned they hardly ever fail although couldn't rule it out. He didn't have time to do any diagnosis work on my bike whilst I was there but said he would ring kawasaki to see if the vehicle down sensor was a failure they had noticed a trend of.

I rang them today and apparently kawasaki won't consider a warranty claim until I remove the quickshifter and ride the bike with the qs removed to see if the fault code 31 alarms again and I have the same issues. Clearly they want to rule out the QS as a possible cause.

Personally I m not convinced the QS is the cause as it works faultlessly and there are only specific conditions where the cut out problem occurs which are hot bike and stationary.

I'm starting to think as the vehicle down sensor is about 6 inch above the exhaust that when stationary with no cool air flow carrying exhaust heat away, the heat from the exhaust is rising and causing the vehicle down sensor / switch to break down and cause an intermittent fault.

My only other thoughts are a possible bad connection somewhere.

For info the QS I fitted is the translogic IS4 which is the same model Kawasaki Bournemouth fit to James Hillier's TT Zx10r race bike and recommended to me. Whilst I can't rule out the QS at the moment I don't think it is the cause of my problem. Kawasaki wish to prove this by removing the QS and seeing if the intermittent fault still appears but as it will take me about 2 hours to remove the QS and then 2 hours to box the bike up ready to ride and then having to repeat the same process to refit the QS if it is not the cause, I'm thinking it maybe better to just buy and fit a new replacement vehicle down sensor myself.

[Monty]

I'd buy a new one and send the old one off to Kawasaki for a refund. It would cost them more to test it than it would to refund you.

[Blade]

I'd buy a new one and send the old one off to Kawasaki for a refund. It would cost them more to test it than it would to refund you.

Sounds a very good idea Monty

How do I do this any ideas / suggestions ?

[Monty]

I'd buy a new one and send the old one off to Kawasaki for a refund. It would cost them more to test it than it would to refund you.

Sounds a very good idea Monty

How do I do this any ideas / suggestions ?

The dealer should be able to do that for you as part of the warranty claim.

[duke63]

How easy is it to remove?