Volkswagen

[Monty]

Do I get a new car?

[duke63]

Do I get a new car?

No mate, sorry.

But you can join the queue for free 1299 Panigales in place of the compo.

[C00kiemonster]

What tax is looming on diesels Cookie ? Have you heard something or just a possibility ?

Europe as a whole is looking at all sorts of legislation, especially on diesel emissions in cities and diesel fuel tax cost.

Diesel in France is at present 20% cheaper than petrol. That tax is being increased to make it more expensive to persuade people away from diesel.

Cities (including London and Birmingham) are looking at charges to enter city centres in diesels.

Also, euro 6 regulations will involve even more crap around the engines (such as egr valves, bigger cats etc) to curb emissions. More crap that goes wrong and costs to repair.

Give it a year or two and they will start coming....

[Norfolknchance]

Nicked off PB so most will have seen it already, but still made laugh out loud

[D6]

lol.

Dammit I was thinking of getting a 4x4 pickup truck soon.

[Blade]

Best time to buy D. Get them cheap whilst their in the sh1t ad still very good cars.

[Norfolknchance]

[Blade]

Is that the Vulcan TDI

[duke63]

It seems my car is one of those affected so i shall be claiming my free Panigale next week.

[Monty]

Not sure how they are going to sort this, as I assume any changes to the fuelling is going to alter both the BHP and the CO2 g/km. One of which is going to change the fun level and the other my company car tax band. Both of which won't be appreciated.

[duke63]

They wont retrospectively change company car tax bands nor road tax. If they do, then you would be entitled to be compensated for the loss incurred but they never have done anything retrospectively tax wise. Your taxable benefit would be based on the original published figures.

The fun level again I would think would mean you are entitled to recompense for your loss especially if the fuel consumption goes up and the resale value goes down.

[Blade]

Sounds a win win for the consumer to me.

They are obviously happy with their cars and ate now going to be compensated with hard cash. Happy days.

[Monty]

They wont retrospectively change company car tax bands nor road tax. If they do, then you would be entitled to be compensated for the loss incurred but they never have done anything retrospectively tax wise. Your taxable benefit would be based on the original published figures.

The fun level again I would think would mean you are entitled to recompense for your loss especially if the fuel consumption goes up and the resale value goes down.

I don't own it it's a company vehicle owned by the lease company so not sure where I would stand. Anyway I've been looking for an excuse to get it re-mapped. Apparently you can get nearly 200BHP out of it.

[duke63]

Whilst i wouldn't defend any company for dishonestly beating the tests, can't help feeling this is whole saga is another way of taxing the masses.

After being encouraged by successive governments to buy diesels as they are more economical ( and still by a significant margin over petrol engines) we are now being told it was all a mistake and we should be buying hybrids which are an even bigger con when it comes to beating the rules.

[Kwacky]

I still think it's more to do with the US attacking the strong European car market on their home soil.

[Perkles]

I work a lot in the automotive industry,small capacity turbo and supercharged petrol engines are what they are investing in and pushing to the consumer

[duke63]

Petrol engines are fine on open roads but around town they still get nowhere near a diesel engine in terms of economy.

The ultimate answer is the kind of hybrid where the electric motor adds to the petrol engine rather than replacing it altogether around town. Many only do about 15 miles on electric power alone.

[C00kiemonster]

Petrol engines are fine on open roads but around town they still get nowhere near a diesel engine in terms of economy.

The ultimate answer is the kind of hybrid where the electric motor adds to the petrol engine rather than replacing it altogether around town. Many only do about 15 miles on electric power alone.

You are right. My issue with diesel is the maintenance when they go wrong because of all the emissions crap on them which goes wrong frequently. The main reason? Diesels being used in towns and sooting up.

My diesel will be my last, bugger the mpg

[D6]

Just ride a bike and leave the car at home.

[Blade]

D6 you will soon have to get a side car or bungee a pram on the side of the s3