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Regardless of the outcome of the vote, this government won't leave.

I do think that the rest of Europe will be watching. I suspect that cracks are appearing in the Union. Personally I think the decision to continue expanding the union hasn't worked out as well as expected. It's a great idea to try and assist other countries to help them improve but I think the cost has outweighed the benefits.

What factors do you think are providing the main impetus for them to stay??

Kwacky wrote:Regardless of the outcome of the vote, this government won't leave....

If the outcome was that the majority want out, I imagine that Cameron would dissolve the incumbent as his last act before resigning.?
Perhaps then Boris would be up against Corbyn, so the next question for us would be; "Do you want the Trump, or full on idealistic socialism"

Another reason to vote to stay.?? (I'd feel safer aligned with European countries than as a strategically placed American pawn).

If Cameron quit I reckon we'll end up with one of the really right wing nutters like IDS or Osborne. Someone like Grayling would be decent, he's a politician first and can take on Corbyn without the petty name calling.

D41 wrote:What factors do you think are providing the main impetus for them to stay??

The cost of leaving is the main reason. Plus we are likely to be bitch slapped by the EU when it comes to trade. We no longer have the clout to influence our neighbours so there will be a few years of poor finance as we try to create new trade markets. At present a massive amount of our GDP is being used to pay off our debts. If trade dips we could be bankrupt.

Just in case you forgot, this is what the PM said about the referendum

And as the Cabinet agreed on Saturday, the government’s position will be to recommend that Britain remains in this reformed European Union.

Mr Speaker, this is a vital decision for the future of our country. And we should also be clear that it is a final decision.

An idea has been put forward that if the country votes to leave we could have a second renegotiation and perhaps another referendum

In other words, even if you want out, you ain't getting out.

Current poles seem to suggest that it's neck and neck. I think the government said that a "out" vote would need to be 65%

There's going to be a lot of very unhappy, stupid, self serving, angry bigots floating around the place if that happens Kwacky.

Personally I think the brexit campaign will win for the same reason the Tories won in the last general election, narrow minded, think b@stard voters that think only of themselves and not the community they live in.

Frankly I'm so dispirited with the "British Voter" I don't give a fudge who that offends. I'm moving to Scotland or maybe Norway.

I think it'll depend on how we're doing in the Euros

Maybe they will let us win

Economic and Social suicide if the UK votes Brexit frankly.

Monty wrote: I'm moving to Scotland or maybe Norway.

come to Aussie, I need someone to ride with

kiwikrasher wrote:

Monty wrote: I'm moving to Scotland or maybe Norway.

come to Aussie, I need someone to ride with

Too many spiders dude! (Plus sharks, snakes, and jelly fish)

Monty wrote:

kiwikrasher wrote:

Monty wrote: I'm moving to Scotland or maybe Norway.

come to Aussie, I need someone to ride with

Too many spiders dude! (Plus sharks, snakes, and jelly fish)

That's all hype. From what i've heard and seen about UK road users you're in fair more danger from them than I am from creepy crawlies and sharks. I've only seen two snakes in the wild in the last 14 yrs of being here, and both times I was in bush areas. And neither of them had the ability to kill me.

Plus here you can ride all year round, if you have a serviceable bike!

Nothing worse than stumbling upon an unexpected snake in the bush area

kiwikrasher wrote:That's all hype. From what i've heard and seen about UK road users you're in fair more danger from them than I am from creepy crawlies and sharks. I've only seen two snakes in the wild in the last 14 yrs of being here, and both times I was in bush areas. And neither of them had the ability to kill me.

Plus here you can ride all year round, if you have a serviceable bike!

Phobias aren't rational mate. I know Huntsman Spiders aren't dangerous but there's something to be said about sleeping with both eyes shut!

Kwacky wrote:Nothing worse than stumbling upon an unexpected snake in the bush area

When did you visit Thailand Kwacky.?

Kwacky wrote:Nothing worse than stumbling upon an unexpected snake in the bush area

Yes there is....trying to 'bunny-hop' a rattle-snake on your MTB...misjudging it, landing on the snake, and having it thrown up onto your bike forcing a 'tactical dismount' at speed.

Bonus points for the thing getting so pissed off that it wraps itself round the bike frame for an hour while you pick frickin' a bajillion cactus spines out of your leg.

Fecker. I don't like snakes.

Both sides have gone very personal in their attacks. It's gone very scrappy. I can see the Brexit side starting to win this.

It would be good if some concessions where made when it comes to a lack of knowing what's going to happen if we leave.