Garage / Motorcycle Security

[Blade]

Did a stupid thing yesterday and added up how much bling I have put on my SP2 over the years and it came to just over £8000

That made me think its going to cost me £15000 to replace it if it went missing and even though the mods are declared the insurance are never going to pay out the full £15000 so I want to review current security levels.

The bike is kept in an alarmed garage so is out of sight and hopefull out of mind. I currently have the bike secured using an Oxford Monster chain to a wall anchor. Would it be over kill to buy a second chain to secure both ends of the bike or is that just overkill and complete paranoid behaviour ????

[Kwacky]

If you were using the bike everyday then it would be a PITA to deal with .

However, given how much time and money you've spent on it i would have it chained to a couple of lions with a moat of larva around it.

I've got two chains on my bike. One for the ground anchor going through the rear wheel and one wrapped around the rear wheel and swingarm. This stops the thieves from removing the rear wheel to get around the ground anchor. The chain in the groundanchor is too thick to go through the swingarm as well.

Use a mix of locks. This will slow down any would be scrotes.

And if any scrotes are looking in, that's not all of my security.

[D6Nutz]

TBH mate, the SP2 is quite a specialist bike and I don't think it would be a target of an opportunist looking to make a few quid of broken parts.

If the SP2 was to be nicked from the garage then I would guess that it's nicked to order, if this is the case then they will probably come equipped to deal with most security.

I've come to the conclusion that if someone really wants to nick the RSV then they are either going to come equipped to do so, or they will fook the bike up so much trying that the insurance will probably write it off anyway.

[Rossgo]

Haven't read any comments bit of a rush but want to comment here! And say...Overkill...for how much you've spent on her...no way! Think of all those hours slogging g away at work and you buying parts bit by bit...if any of that went walk about I'm sure you would be kicking yourself...secure it even more now!

[Blade]

Cheers for the comments and advice.

@D6Nutz - Thing is with the SP the insurance will not cover its true value as its worth well over double book price and thats why I really don't want it going missing. In comparsion the Blade has got about a £1500 of bling fitted which is not the end of the world as I might be able to recover at least half of that by getting a generous pay out.

[D6Nutz]

Cheers for the comments and advice.

@D6Nutz - Thing is with the SP the insurance will not cover its true value as its worth well over double book price and thats why I really don't want it going missing. In comparsion the Blade has got about a £1500 of bling fitted which is not the end of the world as I might be able to recover at least half of that by getting a generous pay out.

Have you thought about insuring it as a custom ?? The policy I have will give a like for like replacement on all custom parts I've added to the bike and are insured at their true value. Because it is insured as a custom rather than a standard bike that has been modified the premium is no more than a standard bike.

I'm not saying for a moment that it's a bad idea to get the additional security, just that there will probably be someone out there with the tools and expertise to get round it all if they really want to nick the bike.

[Blade]

Seen this and like the idea. What do you think.

http://www.bumpstop.co.uk/products/security/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Kwacky]

I presume you ride the bike into it and it holds it upright then you have to slap a paddock stand in at the back?

[C00kiemonster]

Seen this and like the idea. What do you think.

http://www.bumpstop.co.uk/products/security/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That certainly looks tough!

[Blade]

I presume you ride the bike into it and it holds it upright then you have to slap a paddock stand in at the back?

No you just ride it in and fix a chain round the wheel and front stand. No need for a paddock stand the front stand keeps the bike stable. Its like what you see at the NEC on the show bikes.

[Godzilla]

And so they just remove the front axle and leave the wheel but take the bike. Bit pointless that imho.

[D6Nutz]

Won't that also flat spot the tyre if you don't keep taking it in and out to keep the pressure points changing regularly?

[Blade]

I guess thats a fair comment. However it does get thatcham approval so I assume that is as it prohibits bike theft for a defined amount of time perhaps 5 minutes or similar which I think is some industry standard.

Nothing is un-nickable its just how long you can delay the process and unbolting an axle and than having to man handling 200kg whlist in ear shot of 2 seperate 130db alarms in a confined space is not easy.

Have you ever tried to do a job next to a 130db siren in a confined space ? I have and it was unbearable and virtually impossible tbh.

[Blade]

Won't that also flat spot the tyre if you don't keep taking it in and out to keep the pressure points changing regularly?

No more than leaving the bike standing on any floor.

In fact it may improve things as the tyre will have 2 contact patches to spread the load instead of just the one.

[D6Nutz]

I keep the bike on paddock stands all the time.

While there are 2 pressure points the contact area is probably smaller, which would intensify the pressure would it not?

[D6Nutz]

Unless your a bit mutton then I recon the alarms would do the job.

[duke63]

I've got one of those Bumpstops, Blade. Its a quality bit of kit and is made and designed by the guy who runs the Alto Perfomance bike.

http://www.altoracing.co.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; I've also got two chains round my bikes. One at front and one at rear. It adds perhaps 1 minute to me getting the bike out but means it will take twice as long to steal.

Nothing is un-nickable but you can make it very hard for any potential thief. Do you have access to your garage from inside the house, Blade? If so bolt the door from the inside.

I'm trying to find those pins that you insert through the wheel spindle that prevent the wheel from being undone but struggling to find a link at the moment.

[duke63]

Ahh found it. You can use this with those huge ****-off chains too.

Obviously doesn't work if you have spindle sliders fitted though. Also appears to only fit certain bikes too.

http://securityforbikes.com/anti-pinch-pin.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Blade]

Cheers Duke I will read up on those.

Good to hear you have a bump stop and recommend it.

Jon I have yet to find an insurance policy that will cover muliptle bikes and cover an agreed value. If you know of one please let me know.

[D6Nutz]

I doubt there is one. If it was me I would sacrifice the small benefit of a multi bike policy to ensure that my pride and joy was insured to it's full value. It's not only theiving scum bags that are the problem, but dozy old bints who can't see where they are reversing and the old faithfuls who cannot look down the road before joining the road...