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First one:

Curbing carbon poses tough choices

by Roger Harrabin, Environment analyst

As temperatures continue to rise, efforts to contain heating gases continue to falter as science collides with politics.

The UK, for instance, fought hard to host the annual UN climate conference at the end of the year where all nations will be urged towards deeper emissions cuts.

And Boris Johnson says he wants the UK to lead the world on climate change.

But in the first test of his new administration he's already being accused of abandoning his principles.

He's promising to consider cutting the £13 tax on flights in the UK because jobs and connectivity are at stake.

This contradicts his official advice from the Climate Change Committee which says people need to fly less, so the cost of flying should go up, not down.


This sort of uncomfortable trade-off will cause ruffles around the world in coming decades as climate change presents an increasing challenge to politics-as-usual.


Flybe owe the Govt £100 million in airline duty apparently. Can't quite see how they will ever get that back.

You could have 'bonged' Big Ben 200 times with that!!!! (giggle)
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They need to look at all the hot air that's generated by politics worlwide.
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There's too many lies to list. But Johnson is a proven liar so it shouldn't come as any surprise
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... er-station" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... tient-data" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

International drugs agencies being sold access to personal medical data from the NHS.
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Rumours also that the budget will announce a mansion tax on expensive homes and a raid on pensions to fund Johnson's spending plans.
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Won't happen. I reckon it's leaks to help keep his new fans happy but he won't go through with it.
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He has to find the money from somewhere.
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More austerity by the sound of it. Further cuts to local governments is the easiest way.
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duke63 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... tient-data

International drugs agencies being sold access to personal medical data from the NHS.
It does mention that in order to find out info re. specific patients they'd have to "reconstruct & re-identify" individuals.

So yes, they are buying & selling personal medical data, but they're not attaching that information to specific people.
That's the way it reads to me, at least.
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Looks like the government isn't going to bother lying anymore to get round laws that don't suit them. They're just going to ignore then and the court orders that enforce them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51456387" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I wonder how long it will take before people realise what they've actually elected.


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A significant majority just won't care
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I suspect most are more interested in making sure HS2 doesn’t go through their back yard but it seems Johnson doesn’t care on that one. :D

I listened to the nimbys arguing about it this morning. We are decades behind in rail travel and it’s possible it might be the only viable way of long distance travel in the not too distant future.
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£120bn though and another 10 years.

I reckon the French would have done it for £20bn.
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duke63 wrote:I suspect most are more interested in making sure HS2 doesn’t go through their back yard but it seems Johnson doesn’t care on that one. :D
It's coming through my Boris voting father-in-law's back garden, which did give me a little cheer this morning. It's the small things!
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Kwacky wrote:£120bn though and another 10 years.

I reckon the French would have done it for £20bn.
I looked up the latest project, which i guess is similar in length?

Construction of the project started in mid-2012 and was completed in early 2017. The line is scheduled to open for passengers in July 2017.

The €7.8bn ($10.06bn) project involved construction of a new 302km high-speed link between Tours and Bordeaux, as well as 38km of connecting lines to the existing rail network along the corridor.

So if we say £7bn quid, HS2 will cost 17 times more expensive and twice as long to complete. WTAF.....
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I know that land is expensive along the HS2 line but I reckon most of the cost is down to finger dipping. Too many consultants deciding to revise and review at regular intervals.
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Kwacky wrote:I know that land is expensive along the HS2 line but I reckon most of the cost is down to finger dipping. Too many consultants deciding to revise and review at regular intervals.
£ 307,000,000 per mile ! ( £ 307 million ). < That sort of money lines a lot of pockets.
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StMarks wrote:
Kwacky wrote:I know that land is expensive along the HS2 line but I reckon most of the cost is down to finger dipping. Too many consultants deciding to revise and review at regular intervals.
£ 307,000,000 per mile ! ( £ 307 million ). < That sort of money lines a lot of pockets.
Just think of the funding the NHS could get, you could even stick it in there side of a train..


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D6Nutz wrote:....Just think of the funding the NHS could get, you could even stick it in there side of a train..
Perhaps we could ask the Chinese Government to do it for us.?
Seeing how fast & economically they built that hospital in Wuhan, it would probably be built & running before our Department of Transport had decided where they were going to buy the rolling stock from.
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