Brexit

[Kwacky]

I see May has finally given a date to start leaving the EU

This worries me [ii]n a speech on the first day of the conference in Birmingham, she also gave details of a Great Repeal Bill which she said would end EU law's primacy in the UK.[/i] Essentially they've got a blank canvas to re-write the vast majority of laws that impact on how we live and work. Those laws are going to be challenged, appealed, reworded and rewritten for at least the next 10 years. It's going to be messy.

[duke63]

Last week we had the motor industry threatening to leave unless the government recompenses them for any extra costs they incur from brexit. WTO rules, by which we will be bound until we negotiate new trade deals, state that there is a 10% tariff on all motor vehicles and motor spares. Costly.

The value of UK cars exported is around £45 billion per annum so at 10% that is £4.5 billion the government would need to give them.

This week i believe the financial services sector will have their say on the potential damage caused by no free trade agreement.

[duke63]

Apparently I am a subversive according to Theresa May. I will wear that badge with pride.

[duke63]

This about sums it up.

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[Cav]

Laws don't have to change, although I'm sure there will be many new ones implemented...

[Kwacky]

Laws will change, most notaly employment law which will swing from the employees favour to the employers favour. We'll lose workers rights which means we'll have the US system where contracts mean nothing if they want to fire you. Expect to see things like maternity pay become an option not a right.

[Kwacky]

We left Europe on the pledge that the money we pay in will be used to benefit the UK, not Europe;

But it looks like we still need to pay a membership fee to trade with the EU

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37627308" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; FFS

In better news it's now easier to work out how far your holiday money goes as it's one euro to the pound

[Cav]

I thought everyone knew we had to pay a membership to trade in Europe?

Did no one actually do any homework?!?!

[Monty]

[duke63]

Its going to rank as the biggest political cock up in UK history IMHO.

[Cav]

This is why the media feck everything up...

To say they don't control the majority of the population is an extremely dim view and seeing as staying in Europe was the better option why did they keep streaming images of hate with the constant bombardment of immigration, crime and terrorism - of course it's going to make people vote leave despite them knowing nothing about it.

A statistic I found at the time was that more immigrants in the UK are from China than from Europe - how is leaving Europe going to help that?

What's worse is that Cameron stepped down because he was in the vote Remain camp only to find out his successor was in the same camp as him. She did what she had to in order to get where she wanted to go and now she's going all Margaret Thatcher on our asses.

[Kwacky]

It's going to get very very messy. May has said she doesn't want Parliament to vote on the Brexit issues. So that's democracy out of the window. By all accounts getting Britain back means that the common man has even less say in how the country is run.

I can see the Tory party falling apart once it's clear May has little control over how we deal with Europe post Article 50. We're in a very weak position at the negotiating table, with many UK based European companies looking to leave if there's no assurances regarding trade and workers.

We're going to end up with a massive skills gap as people look to leave the UK and those UK citizens in Europe refuse to come back. The way doctors are being treated now and threatened in the future is a glimpse of what is to come.

It's going to be bleak for at least 10 years.

[Monty]

Yeah but at least we'll get to enjoy all that sovereignty. Just look at all that sovereignty sloshing around the place!

[duke63]

The Treasury report done by the Government reckons a hard Brexit will mean the Treasury is £66 billion per year worse off.

That's nearly 10% of all its income. That could bankrupt the Nation.

[Kwacky]

We could always ask the EU for a bailout.

[D41]

Laws will change, most notaly employment law which will swing from the employees favour to the employers favour. We'll lose workers rights which means we'll have the US system where contracts mean nothing if they want to fire you. Expect to see things like maternity pay become an option not a right.

OK...but how is that bad???

If I'm an employer, why should I not be running the show?? It's my business, and my ass on the line if things go awry (not to mention my money...).
If someone isn't pulling their weight, then why shouldn't I fire them and hire someone else?? It wouldn't be the first time I'd of had to let someone go...you don't do your job, hit the road....Plenty of others are willing to step in and take your place.
I had this happen with one notable dickhead who thought he was running things....a week sitting at home soon cured his problem!!

Then I fired him anyway...he was a total PITA.

Loser.

[Kwacky]

Have you not heard of unfair dismissals?

[D41]

Of course I have...(not really).

Why would anyone want to work where they were not wanted?? To be fair to myself....I've always worked in an environment where things are not very rigidly structured...it's very casual in nature. At least insofar as employees/employers go.
The only "structured" job I ever had was in the UK, and everyone was an "instant-Hitler" the moment they were given any kind of responsibility over others. And I have no time for that kind of person at all. I just don't.

[Monty]

This interview just about sums up the whole fooking debacle!

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/j ... cd?2easjor" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Kwacky]

It's not the 1960s anymore, you can't walk out of a job and straight into another.

There are some very good arguments about governments keeping unemployment at a certain level as it serves their purpose when trying to erode worker rights.