I spent about 20 minutes inspecting the one at Brum. Each time you look at something you spot something new attached to it.

It's not the prettiest of bikes but it's a fantastic piece of engineering.

Kwacky that's what bikes are all about [SMILING FACE WITH OPEN MOUTH AND TIGHTLY-CLOSED EYES]

A lot of bikes are developed with future regs in mind, but won't actually technically refer to them until they need to. As you say, there's no point developing bikes knowing what is upcoming if it won't pass those regs as well.

Looks mental.

They are marmite bikes. Glad someone has the balls to make one but equally not something i would ever want to own.

Can't really see the point in a bike that you cannot use anywhere.

We still talking bikes here Andy

... I got a free dyno out of it, but he never sent me a copy of the game he promised :( he did email me to say my bike was the sound of the Suzuki bikes. either 2010 or 2011 I think.

There's a place for tricked up bikes with computers and the back to basics type of two wheeled fun.

So long as it puts a smile on your face.

I understand where your coming from but the latest bikes have changed the way you can handle the latest power outputs.I never thought I would see the day I could thrash a 180 Bhp super bike ,I like my traction control and anti wheelie gizmos thank ...

I understand where your coming from but the latest bikes have changed the way you can handle the latest power outputs.I never thought I would see the day I could thrash a 180 Bhp super bike ,I like my traction control and anti wheelie gizmos thank ...

I understand where your coming from but the latest bikes have changed the way you can handle the latest power outputs.I never thought I would see the day I could thrash a 180 Bhp super bike ,I like my traction control and anti wheelie gizmos thank you very much

Kind of my thinking in sticking with a 600.

I reckon my ZX6R and the like is the last of the pure sports bikes. All the power, no gizmos and very little EU restriction. Which is why I intend to keep it.

I wouldn't expect much difference on the road between the two bikes, at least not without a full frontal lobotomy!

... in a crash. Not saying they are all designed with that purpose, but by default they do offer some protection. I have seen a number of bikes with them on both sides, but no idea if it's the norm on top level racing.

i suspect there maybe a few bikes fitted with fugly exhausts in 2017

It would not make any sense for bikes developed in the last 12 months or so not to be easily Euro 4 compliant. There are mechanical noise limits involved too.

It's a guess bit would have thought the new 2015 bikes like s1000rr, R1, RSV4 etc do. If not could be time to go shopping this time next year

I think the only current bike that meets Euro 4 is the Multistrada.

I'm not aware of any other bikes that meet the regs from any manufacturer but I'm sure some must do.

Good thinking Duke should be some bargains about but I guess it will only be bikes that don't meet Euro4 though.

I assume the 899 and 1299 meet euro 4 ? And the 1199 doesnt ?

... time next year and see if they update that. The introduction of the Euro 4 regulations in Jan 2017 means there will be a lot of pre-registered new bikes up for sale this time next year.

... start. As far as I'm aware they are not designed to offer any protection to the hand or lever and are only fitted to the brake side on motogp race bikes.

... made to the 1299 can be transferred to the 1199. The 1199R has an adjustable swing arm pivot point that can be retro-fitted to the earlier 1199 bikes. I like this sort of playing, fiddling, adjusting and improving which is why an 1199 has become of interest again. That said I went out on the ...