Perkles wrote:but the Honda is so disappointing,its low down on power and it sounds pathetic all for a huge amount of wedge,who cares if 90% of the parts are from Marquez bike

Hondas intended market.

Perkles wrote:but the Honda is so disappointing,its low down on power and it sounds pathetic all for a huge amount of wedge,who cares if 90% of the parts are from Marquez bike

Link? I haven't heard it! Is it the road trim or full on 215 one with intake/exhaust mods?

but the Honda is so disappointing,its low down on power and it sounds pathetic all for a huge amount of wedge,who cares if 90% of the parts are from Marquez bike

That's the issue, the road version sounds like it's been castrated, both in terms of power and exhaust note.

The road going H2 is 250bhp. Seems even the full blown higher spec H2R doesn't even make 250 bhp (blush) I still think it's a great bike and success for kawasaki though and not saying any different. http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv322/tankslap/Mobile%20Uploads/20150615_112539_zpskzcai7dv.jpg

... We don't really know anything about the Honda yet, except what they've told us. IF they've given the public the chance to own what is basically a road legal full on moto gp bike then fair play to them. I bet it goes like f$&k!

Just my opinion.

Honda wanted to give their young engineers a special project.

Kawasaki wanted to harness different departments working together and build a very fast supercharged bike to create interest in superchargers.

I would say job done for both.

Blade wrote: Both projects have been very successful imo though.

How do you know that? I've not read any reviews or reports.

Which do you think will be quicker a road going rcv or a road going h2?

No brainer imo and not surprising as its like comparing apples with potatoes and the design briefs couldn't not be further apart either. Both projects have been very successful imo though.

And the H2 does not make or is even quoted as making anywhere near 250 bhp

But the H2 is huge and weighs about 15 tonnes in comparrison

Isn't it 95%+ Marquez' championship winning bike? If money were no object that would be the bike I would buy. The HRC paint job really doesn't do it any favours but if I could afford that bike it'd be in repsol colours

People are quoting 159bhp because that's the figure Honda gave us. That's the road version. The point is simple - you can buy a £12k sportsbike that'll throw out 40bhp more.

The road going H2 is 250bhp.

it also sounds pants ,nothing like a race rep just dull and boring

at least kawasaki stuck their balls on the line and made a fire breathing monster ,the honda falls way below expectations 159 bhp for that kind of money is a joke In fairness Honda are a very reserved and traditional Japanese conservative compnay who have motorcycles as there core business. Kawasak...

For the money they want it's a pisstake frankly, but I'm sure they will sell them all as most will never ride them and take them as an investment, like classic cars at the moment. Bonkers. Cookie I understand where your coming from and it was always going to be a collectors special but a fair view ...

I think the 159 figure is probably just sandbagging. With an ecu and a bit of ducting you can get 215 so that engine will be strong internally. Remember how Nissan claimed 480hp for the gtr but when it went on the dyno it mysteriously made 560?

Why do people keep quoting 159 bhp what about the OVER 215 bhp with the optional kit ? The brief by Honda management was to give their young engineers a project equal to the original highly regarded engineering project in Honda circles which was the rc30. I would say they have succeeded in their aim...

at least kawasaki stuck their balls on the line and made a fire breathing monster ,the honda falls way below expectations 159 bhp for that kind of money is a joke

For the money they want it's a pisstake frankly, but I'm sure they will sell them all as most will never ride them and take them as an investment, like classic cars at the moment. Bonkers.