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California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?

California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?

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California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
Flow 24 January 2012 11:35AM
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Hi all,

I know we've talked about this so many time, but I'm going to book my CSS level 3 in the coming weeks and thought I'd see if I could hook up with some of you guys and gals on the day.

I thinking one of the dates in April on the Stowe circuit at Silverstone, but would be open to changing that so long as it's not later than May as I'd like to get my day in before the track day season starts properly.
[www.superbikeschool.co.uk]

If you've not completed a CSS day before don't be concerned about the apparent Mickey mouse nature of the Stowe circuit, CSS is all about cornering and there are plenty of those and they're close together which means you get loads of practice - anyone can go down a straight full throttle and you will hit three figures on the dash if only for a few seconds.

Both myself and Pitty (I'll let him add his own link) have posted pics from this circuit and both had amazing days last year.
[www.tankslap.co.uk]
[www.tankslap.co.uk]


So who's in, what dates work?
Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
CookieMonster 24 January 2012 11:39AM
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I'd like to, but will try the Chris Walker school in May first. Problem is your talking £600 with bike hire for the day - CW school is £299 for the bike and tuition.

I imagine CSS is very good and probably better, but not sure it is worth that.

I could be wrong and the CW school might be crap Rolling on the floor laughing
Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
Bratty 24 January 2012 11:54AM
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same here mate it was on my list to do but now booked in the Chris Walker school its a no no for me.

I get knocked down but i get up again
Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
Godzilla 24 January 2012 06:06PM
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CookieMonster
I'd like to, but will try the Chris Walker school in May first. Problem is your talking £600 with bike hire for the day - CW school is £299 for the bike and tuition.

I imagine CSS is very good and probably better, but not sure it is worth that.

I could be wrong and the CW school might be crap Rolling on the floor laughing

Ride your own bike, and a day at CSS lasts longer than CW.
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D41 24 January 2012 06:09PM
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Ride your own bike, and a day at CSS lasts longer than CW.

You've done a couple of levels haven't you?....how was it??
Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
Duke63 24 January 2012 06:14PM
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The more i read from them, the more i am not entirely convinced by some of the CSS teachings.

That Motovudu dvd i had for Christmas seems to actually contradict some of what the CSS teach...and that guy has won a 500GP.
Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
Jack 24 January 2012 06:32PM
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I will not have the cash until may , but I will be doing it.
Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
Godzilla 24 January 2012 06:55PM
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Duke63
The more i read from them, the more i am not entirely convinced by some of the CSS teachings.

That Motovudu dvd i had for Christmas seems to actually contradict some of what the CSS teach...and that guy has won a 500GP.

I actually am going the other way.

I have seen the Motovudu, read the book and the more I think about it (and have talked to people with far more skill than I will ever have) the less convinced I am about the video. Being able to do something and understanding/ teaching it are 2 completely different skills.

I think Motovudu is aimed at riders far better than me. Some of the things he says are well meant but not the best explained.

Eg "brake hard immediately" then let the brakes off earlier; grabbing a handful very hard immediately could cause you to lose the front.
there are others as well.



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Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
Flow 25 January 2012 12:59AM
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I don't think I'll get into a debate about what's best that's been done many times.

Here's what I found... CSS, has given me more head space on trackdays. A couple of years ago I used to come away from a trackday feeling frustrated that I couldn't go any faster. Now I come away feeling exilerated, I'm faster, calmer and enjoy them so much more. I'm not the fastest guy out there by a long way, but I'm never frustrated, I know I have the mental capacity for even more speed, and I revel in the precision of nailing good technique, I know with more training I'll go faster still & will get more enjoyment. No matter how good CSS is there will always be someone with more natural ability or just less regard for personal safety than me, but I'm getting he best out of what I bring & I couldn't say that before.

It's not cheap but IMHO it is good value.



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Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
D41 25 January 2012 04:44AM
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Here's what I found... CSS, has given me more head space on trackdays. A couple of years ago I used to come away from a trackday feeling frustrated that I couldn't go any faster. Now I come away feeling exilerated, I'm faster, calmer and enjoy them so much more. I'm not the fastest guy out there by a long way, but I'm never frustrated, I know I have the mental capacity for even more speed, and I revel in the precision of nailing good technique, I know with more training I'll go faster still & will get more enjoyment. No matter how good CSS is there will always be someone with more natural ability or just less regard for personal safety than me, but I'm getting he best out of what I bring & I couldn't say that before.

I like your attitude, most especially the "head space" comment...after all, besides athletic ability, only what is in our minds separates us from those who are light-years faster than us...I don't ride for the supposed 'adrenaline-rush'...frankly, I don't understand that sentiment at all..I ride because I find it relaxes me and allows me to focus on just one thing & one thing only.

Except the falling off part...I probably focus on that a bit too....
Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
fkkr1s 25 January 2012 08:44AM
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same here mate it was on my list to do but now booked in the Chris Walker school its a no no for me.

+1at the moment

Too many projects and not enough time !
Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
Kwacky 25 January 2012 09:26AM
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I might do Level 1 again but it won't be until much later in the year.

2005 Honda CBR600rr (Repsol)
Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
Flow 25 January 2012 10:36AM
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D41
Except the falling off part...I probably focus on that a bit too....

Lol, yeah, it's the falling off part that slows me down to, but the ride at 80% ethos of the school allows me to feel comfortable and focus on doing things right. By the end of the day I'm giving it 98% commitment (I can't help it!) which is probably 120% of what I was capable of when I arrived and grinning from ear to ear rather than grimacing about what might happen.
Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
Blade 25 January 2012 11:20PM
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Duke63
The more i read from them, the more i am not entirely convinced by some of the CSS teachings.

That Motovudu dvd i had for Christmas seems to actually contradict some of what the CSS teach...and that guy has won a 500GP.

No experience of Motovudu but I belive CSS has coached the likes of Leon Camier & Wayne Rainey and many more.

[www.superbikeschool.com]

As far as I know CSS are the best boys in the buisness although I have no experience of them personally I m just going on other peoples feedback, altough I do think they are expensive.

Racing is life, Anything before or after is waiting
Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
Hazza 26 January 2012 09:25PM
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I've got two Track Days in the next few months and want to fit a ROn Haslam in before the TT at the end of May. No go from me as I won't have the money Sad Smile but maybe later in the year I'll kick my level 1 off
Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
Kwacky 26 January 2012 09:39PM
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Hazza, you should join us at the Chris Walker school on the 15th May.

2005 Honda CBR600rr (Repsol)
Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
Daniel 26 January 2012 10:42PM
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I might be up for Chris Walkers..Kwacky what time will you be starting the day? £305?

Problem is im 2 and a half hours away and wondered what time it be starting..holiday inn might be an idea for myself if its an early start..
Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
Bratty 26 January 2012 10:57PM
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Dan the day starts at 8am but I think there's others coming from down south Yes

I get knocked down but i get up again
Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
Daniel 27 January 2012 12:12AM
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okay thanks Bratty Yes if anyone from the south is going let me know and i'll see what i can do!

(track virgin here Angel) lol
Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
Kwacky 27 January 2012 07:22AM
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There are a few hotels and BnBs nearby and on the way.

2005 Honda CBR600rr (Repsol)
Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
Flow 27 January 2012 08:15AM
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Oi, this a CSS thread, start you're own thread Chris Walker zealots!!!
blah blah
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CookieMonster 27 January 2012 08:52AM
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Oi, this a CSS thread, start you're own thread Chris Walker zealots!!!
blah blah



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Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
Bratty 27 January 2012 08:53AM
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rolfrolfrolf

I get knocked down but i get up again
Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
Kwacky 27 January 2012 08:59AM
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2005 Honda CBR600rr (Repsol)
Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
Flow 27 January 2012 09:14AM
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You guys...rolf
Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
Hazza 27 January 2012 01:21PM
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Lol!! Jokes!!

Na kwaky, too far for me and waay to expensive just before the TT sorry guys Sad Smile
Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
Kwacky 27 January 2012 01:27PM
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No worries. Let me know when you're thinking about Level 1 CSS and I might join you.

2005 Honda CBR600rr (Repsol)
Re: California Superbike school (CSS) - Who's in?
Duke63 27 January 2012 01:30PM
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My problem with the CSS is that it's a big investment and you really need to do the different levels in consecutive years at worst and probably all 4 in two season.

It's a £2k investment to do the whole lot by the time you add in travel, days off work etc.
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